“We are all one and insha Allah (God willing) there would be complete unity among all pro-freedom groups on all issues. Stand of all the pro-freedom groups is that Kashmir is disputed and India should fulfill its promise of giving the right to self-determination to the people of J&K,” – Syed Ali Shah Jeelani Of Hurriyat Conference
In a joint statement of all separatist groups in Kashmir , it was said that Hurriyat along with the traders would march towards Muzaffarabad , which is occupied by Pakistan.
While as it exposes yet again the desire of Islamic fundamentalism and anti India movement in Kashmir ,the Govt of India continues to pamper these people instead of acting tough.Last 60 years of pampering has turned large number of Kashmiri muslim a spoilt brat with no tolerance towards any other religion.
I would suggest that Govt. Of India makes all out arrangement to facilitate the Hurriyat march towards Pakistan occupied Muzaffarabad and also ensure that these leaders leave for that place along with their people ,bag and baggages …once for all.
Yes, anybody and everbody should be allowed to go to Muzaffarabad, which is CURRENTLY occupied by Pakistan. But that should be a one-way traffic only.
I do not agree that “it exposes yet again the desire of Islamic fundamentalism”. Islam has allways been that way. It is allways fundamentalists and there is nothing wrong in that. Who has asked Hindus to be non-fundamentalist? The word fundamentalist is allways used wrongly. Every race/community/religion/class has fundamentals. The muslims in Kashmir want either independence or join Pakistan. And that’s what is the problem.
I agree that “the Govt of India continues to pamper these people instead of acting tough.” That’s because of the vote bank in rest of Bharat.
I do not agree that “Last 60 years of pampering has turned large number of Kashmiri muslim a spoilt brat with no tolerance towards any other religion.” That is allways been the case, else there would not have been a partition of Bharat in 1947.
I TOTALLY agree that “I would suggest that Govt. Of India makes all out arrangement to facilitate the Hurriyat march towards Pakistan occupied Muzaffarabad and also ensure that these leaders leave for that place along with their people ,bag and baggages …once for all.”
Comment by Chintamani — August 10, 2008 @ 8:11 am
Let the Government of India open the Muzaffarabad border to these elements from the Kashmir valley. They think they will be received with garlands and open arms by Pakistan! When they will face bullets of the Pakistan army then they will realise they are better off being on this side of the border.
Do they not know that Kashmir vallley is much better off than Pakistan occupied Kashmir?
Let those who want to align to Kashmir, go to Pakistan. Please leave India and go!
Comment by Espee — August 10, 2008 @ 8:16 am
Just now we heard the news… Shivraj Patil has announced that they will compensate the fruit growers in Kashmir for the losses…. Once again appeasement because of the vote bank…
Comment by Chintamani — August 10, 2008 @ 8:34 am
Syed Ali Shah Jeelani Of Hurriyat Conference is the “Jinnah of Kashmir”.
Hes anti-national views, and his propanganda is nothing new for Kashmir.
I don’t understand why Govt of India is not taking any action against his statements.
Why the Govt of India is so “mum” about this.
Where will he lead Kashmir..In Blanket of Darkness?
Please Go !!!
This is what I feel about you “Sepratists of Kashmiri”
Please facilitate them in crossing the broder and Seal the Border to ForEver and remind them too that there will be “No Trade” with Muzaffarabad ie PoK.
And if the raise there voice again, The Govt should shoot them while they make an attempt to cross border.
Geelani and Others of his team wants to see another Quit India Movement or Leave “Hindu”-stan Movement.
Comment by Animesh — August 10, 2008 @ 9:03 am
Guys LKA has announced a do or die battle for valley and believe me friends with hopefully a good majority behind them the next NDA govt will abrogate 370 and pretty soon our nationalist JK brothers will have cosmopolitan neighbourhoods of Punjabis, Himachalis, Haryanavis, Kannadigas and many more! This is the last abuse of Shishupal to Lord Krishna pretty soon mandirs of Kashmir will become what they were, the spiritual seat of Hinduism. Jai Hind. Down with wannabe Kashmiri tallybunnies (poor version of Taliban).
Comment by Firebrand — August 10, 2008 @ 9:49 am
Let them cross the LOC and go to the hell
Comment by Nishit Desai — August 10, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
When I wasworking in J&K in 1979 when ever wevsiited Srinagar and other places the kashmiri will ask “Hindustan SeAyeho”–That is kashmiri different land!! But werevery tolernt and kind-helpful as that wasall with in the pacakgeoftourism/trade etc
with the arrival of dismissal of Farooq Govt in 1987-88 by Rajiv another Psuedo Kashmiri like his late GPa -who is the route causeof all J&K problems-tye ego of kashmiri was hurt and aided and abettedby polticians-when even SAGilani was also a politician-trrorism was founded and hasbeen taken overby Fundaendalisits as fundsfor Hurriyat is from ISI-Terror cun fundamntal group.Removing SASGilani will not reduce kashmiri outlook towards-India-Bharat-Hinduatan! Pandit complicated the issue in 1948-ashe was a dreamerand not administrator rejecting advice of Army–However the best part of j&k is with in India asOJ&K is arid land but confronts Dragon!–J&K is a pernial issueand if kashmiri hurt pandits and Hindus they wil lbe loosers as 80%of trade-work is with India -Hinduatan!1 What is going on is politics.Will Hindus accept 25acresland alloted for WAKF? Letus be honest–the allocation it self was wrong and cancellation was doubly wrong.J&K ->70%people are still humanistic but religion has gripped J&K like all overIndia. For thsi we haveto blame Congis,Mulla Mulayam Singh Yadav,Lalluji and commis.Votebank will continueunless the younger generation jumps the electrol fary and comesout of the house to vote andbring NDA–NDA is not a manna for india –they too have thier skeletons but atleast the Funda-terrornexus will think twice beforeany further strike–UPAis teh weakest Govt in post independance era of India andMuslims and pakis know it very well.UPAis stuffed with coomis-left leaning so called intellectuals fr whom ancient india -Hinu philosophy is anethma!! Wehave to wait for 2009 to throw UPAinto arabian sea and this is in teh hands of younger generation to vote-thi si in teh handof working -middle class -tocome out of their cozy homes and vote against UPA.Any harsh steps today willbring in terror horde across borderinto India and wewill have mayhem.Only a united India with strong central Govt will act. Mayawati becoming M is also wrought with danger Thesolution Will Hindus make their own Fidayeens -Never as we Hindus are materilaistic and we will write copius notes on Blog-like the writer-Hindus Fidayens are the answers against ONLY Hindu Pseudo leaders!Will Hindus arise–this is a open question–wlll Hindus create Fidayeens?–Wehad Fidayeens in Hindus 600yearsback in the form of Sikhs-Khalsa!!Will there be a anotherKhalsa?? to protext and save the Nation?I do not think so as Gen-x is in materilaistic mode-The politicians have made Hindus impotent-to forget their own martial past!! Blame Democracy dear
Comment by RUmapathy — August 11, 2008 @ 12:51 am
how does it expose the ‘desire of Islamic fundamentalism’??
please dont mix religion with politics
Comment by zahir — August 11, 2008 @ 10:50 am
Dear Zahir,
It’s the People from Kashmir or so called people so much concerned with Kashmiriat cause have termed “A Peacefull Agitation” as communal.
“Desire of Islamic Fundamentalism” is very much visible to India,
It can be very easily interpreted the way KASHMIR Valley is behaving.
It is very clear from the Kashmiri view point, of Making Kashmir an Islamic state.
Comment by Animesh — August 11, 2008 @ 11:13 am
To think that the Indian state is just and all Hindus are victims of Islamic fundamentalism is the most ridiculous undertone of this blog..Let them go to Pakistan! Thats a bloody good solution alright..To see these demonstrations now representing the anguish of 60 years of oppression as would like to be portrayed is to blow the land deal way way out of proportion!
The Indian state is not the angel it is made out to be..human right violations by the dozen abound in Indian states like J&K and the North East..all traceable to Indian governments and law enforcement agencies..People have suffered everywhere in this country and more so if they in the minority..
The land transfer and dealings afterward stink of political and divisive intent..The BJP and all its functionalities have no bloody business using this as an opportunity to make political gains..The government machinery in Kashmir screwed up..it reached a decision without creating a consensus on it..The idea that this screw up would flare into proportions it has now reflect poorly on both communities..The Amarnath yatra has been on for many years with support from the local community from Kashmir and thats beyond any sort of argument..To transfer a controversial piece of land to a Samiti which at no point has spoken of its desire to share responsibility and business with Kashmiris foxes me completely..
Decisions like these have to be considering the bigger picture and taking history into account..again the logic which demands the necessity of transfer of land for the success of a yatra which has been on for many years without it is permeable..
India has to decide once and for all whether it wants Kashmir to be a part of it or not..To isolate it and let it time and again enter periods it has like now is not the way forward for this country..
For the people from Jammu, stop using this as a platform to seek revenge! The kashmiri pandits were done wrong and their settlement has been greatly debated..but has any political party since the time come up with a decisive formula?? has anybody shown any intent?? one cannot say that there is appeasement of the Kashmiris muslims, they have after all witnessed an equally torrid time these last twenty years..
This blog has been a highly looked for source of information these last few days..please dawn that role with humility and responsibility..not with the sense of reckless purpose it seems to be pruned with right now..
Comment by Rishabh — August 11, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
I am totally agreed with Chintamani & Nishith Desai.
Comment by Jeet Bhargava — August 11, 2008 @ 5:48 pm
and for mr. chintamani..losses in excess of 4,000 crores..thats 1 billion dollars..think about it again..compensation is the right word..not appeasement..
Comment by Rishabh — August 11, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
Root cause analysis
Kashmir problem is a serious problem….. it is not the problem that has started recently. It has existed since Islam first showed its face in Kashmir. And it will also vanish once people understand the basic fundamental problem is not with the people or India or Pakistan or Muslims or Pandits but the problem is with ISLAM. Have u interacted with muslims without islam they are humans and good people, but the moment you add Islam they become Killers in the name of allah. Kashmir my homeland and Birth place is not the only place that has this typical problem…. it is almost any where and every where Muslims are there.
Problem is very clearly within the roots of Islam…. Understand muhammad to understand Islam…. “In allah hu musabrin” god is with the people of patience…… but if the islam is indeed religion of peace that it claims why IS EVERY MILLITANT THE TRUE FOLLOWER OF ISLAM….. Islam teaches them to kill anyone that doesnot beleive in Islam and Allah or muhamad and is not ready to converyt to Islam.
In what way is a kashmiri pandit different…. when it comes to kashmiri muslims they are just being tru muslims who follow quran…….
Islam says:
Love thy neighbour because he will come to your help first……
But if he follows another faith try to convert him to Islam…….
And if he doesnot then Kill him…………
My brothers and sisters learn that if we want to have peace all over the world help our muslim brothers and sisters to overcome the fundamental problems with Islam…. Direct them to …. http://www.faithfreedom.org
Comment by Kuldeep Trisal — August 12, 2008 @ 1:46 am
mr. kuldeep please go check ur facts..
Comment by Rishabh — August 12, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
this country and its people are blind..
Comment by Rishabh — August 13, 2008 @ 6:13 pm
I think wee kashmiri pandits are stupid arss.. I think we should get over the fact that kashmir belongs to us. It belongs to kashmiri muslims. asss kashir batan chi choth dazaan.,,agar assi batav neni batti khemov assi yihah akal… ass chov gov(cow) muthur ass gai khaar zaleel
Comment by Rajni Kaul — August 15, 2008 @ 3:53 am
I feel Rishabh & Rajni Koul are Kashmiri Muslims under fake names,Stupids dare to write withur own names or F**K off to muzzafarabad if u r unhappy in India.Is any one forcing u 2 stay here
Comment by Ashwini Koul — August 15, 2008 @ 8:54 am
Rishab I did check my facts and am sure u would have checked ur facts and decided to abandon ISLAM
Kuldeep
Comment by Kuldeep Trisal — August 16, 2008 @ 7:22 am
I want kashmir to go to pakistan, we had enough of anti india sentiments there. for 50 years. I will donate my blood if their wish is fullfilled
Comment by raj — August 20, 2008 @ 7:31 pm
Raj …. remember even if u donate ur blood and by giving kashmir to Paki….. They will want more….. We have the seed of ISLAM spread alll over INdia… What will u do with them.. Today Kashmir Tomorrow UP next Bangal and Gujrat and the whole India…… By then u would have converted and will be holding gun in one hand and quran in another…. They cant blackmail us at any time that is for sure……
Anil
Comment by koul Anil — August 20, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Read about the chain of ISLAM very interesting. Dr. Yunis Shaikh… beautiful law of pakistan…. We encourage every one to read…
http://www.mukto-mona.com/human_rights/chain_of_islam.htm
My conscience and me…..
Comment by koul Anil — August 20, 2008 @ 9:26 pm
Check this out in New York……. Rally by KP’s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBc6gPk8pU
Happy watching
Comment by koul Anil — August 20, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
yeah its funny … why these people will not use their real names …
they are so scared ??
thats sad …
Kashmir is India’s and we will get back poK as well … and fuck all the moslems whores on the way …. :d ….
LIVE AND LET LIVE …
Comment by chandra — August 21, 2008 @ 11:36 am
Hello Chandra,
I understand your angst and uneasyness about Kashmiri Muslims.
But please refrain from using abusive and uncultured language. It will only bring about a useless debate with unnecessary exchange of insults. Instead focus on the root causes of the issue and how you think it should be resolved.
Regards
Anwar Sadiq
Comment by Anwar Sadiq — August 22, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
Anwar welcome here…….
Please look up in the comment section u will find the root cause analysis by kuldeep……
And watch this video…….. Which will tell u what ISLAM is all about….
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781&hl=en
Or read the information from the site
http://www.faithfreedom.org…...
We prefer to make you realize where the root cause is rather than give u politically correct statements…….
Anil
Comment by Koul Anil — August 22, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
Hello Anwar,
#But please refrain from using abusive and uncultured language
Are you really open to discuss about culture. religion idealogy etc ?
#Instead focus on the root causes of the issue and how you think it should be resolved.
Can you explain us the root cause from your side?
We all have lost lives HINDUS/YOU ….. we know that .
Would you mind answering this ?
>>Should a Muslim be LOYAL to country Or RELIGION ?
Regards,
Vicky
Comment by Vicky — August 22, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
Anil, let us accept the fact there is hatred across and it will continue till we are not logical and think about MANKIND and accept criticisms about our BLIND/Illogical faith .
The ball is in there court now .
Comment by Vicky — August 22, 2008 @ 12:45 pm
India is a Free Country – where every citizen is allowed freedom of speech and movement. If there is a set of people who want to go to Muzfarabad or any place in the world where they will feel less insecure – I think they should have been allowed to go. This to me is not a religious issue but one of choices.
If some people of Kashmiri origin want to go to live under the umbrella of Pakistan – they should be allowed to go there, whether they are Hindus or Muslims. Let them feel Pakistan and the security it can provide them. I am sure these people are educated enough to understand the level of comfort and security they will get there. By stopping the march and detaining people the GOI has only made martyrs out of a disgruntled team of people who, for sixty years, have basked under the lack of political will of GOI.
I challenge Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Sayed to go seek and get a Pakistani passport! I know they will ignore this challenge not because they feel this is an absurd challenge but because, deep in their hearts, they know in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan they would not enjoy one tenth of the freedom od speech which they enjoy here in Secular India. Strange but true – the GOI allowed a confidence vote for the Congress govt to be used as a platform for Omar to deliver a speech in which he actually sought a vote of confidence for a Muslim Kashmir and the Indian media obliged as usual.
God save India !
Comment by Reshi Mohalla — August 22, 2008 @ 2:10 pm
******Must Watch Video*******
A to Z of cruelty of ISLAM and Mohammed revealed.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 22, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
Let Kashmir go, say 40% in Jammu:
This is one more farce of English daily Times Of India which has published its report today that 40% of Jammuites think, India should let the Kashmir go. I can challenge this number any day and say confidently that not even 0.1% of Jammuites can think of this Idea. To us Kashmir and Ladhakh is integral part of J&K and to the Union Of India.
Now my question is who runs these polls? and how can Govt Of India just allow anybody to publish anything concerning and questioning sovereignty of Indian state without undermining the implications.
All the bloggers “Requesting you to Comment” and “Give your Poll on this question” so that it comes out very clearly what are the aspirations of people of Jammu.
Times Of India and other English media reporting on J&K are opinion builders of the nation and by doing this disservice to the nation they are just helping the nation to beak away and at the same time giving food for people like Arundhiti, Shabana, Javed Akhtar and Teesta to fee on.
“I AS A JAMMUITE CONTRADICT THIS POLL”
“That perhaps explains why Jammu was the only one of the nine cities that had a majority saying India should let Kashmir go. As many as 58% said the human and economic cost of holding on to Kashmir was not worth it, and only 14% had the opposite view”
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 24, 2008 @ 4:47 am
“I AS AN INDIAN CONTRADICT THIS POLL”
“Let Kashmir go? 68% say no in 9-city poll”
The 68 % is all vague,biased.
I think this value will be 99.99 % ..No Indian will ever even think of this.
Media Houses like TOI, CNN-IBN are good for nothing, they always mislead people.
Comment by Animesh — August 24, 2008 @ 5:04 am
please again again i m requesting do not waste your worthy time on watching all types of bitch, bastards, who doesnot have any better news, then hurting hindu sentiments may it be Shriamarnath or ShriRamsethu or ShriRamjanmabhoomi or ShriKrishnajanmabhoomi or ShriKashivishvanathbhoomi or thousands of razed HinduShrines across INDIA PAKISTAN BANGLADESH AFGHANISTAN. FOR kind awareness to all my HINDU brothers & sisters, are you aware that non of the mark my words that non of our BHAGWAN JANMBHOOMI is in our hand. All this sacred worship places,,, ON WHICH MASJID ARE STANDING.HIstory will repeat it self when ALL HINDUS WILL AWAKE & RISE FOR THERE RIGHT.No body is going to come to change the scene we only have to rise for our RIGHT.Now i donot belive in making understand that how we fill.WE DO NOT NEED TO JUSTIFY OUR SELF. This the time for DIRECT ACTION. NOTHING LESS WILL DO EXCEPT, HINDU NATION, HINDURAJ. And most important is who ever, repeat who ever DO NO AGREE THEY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OUR ONLY HINDU NATION. Now next step should be appointing our HINDU GOVERMENT WITH TAG OF ONLY HINDU NATION . Quote: ALL MUSLIM ARE NOT TERORIST BUT ALL TERORIST ARE MUSLIM. AND we should not forget damm kennth haywood who is still under scrutiny of ATS , they have not given him clean chit.This also shows involvement of UPA CONGRESS SP RJD
Comment by vid123 — September 5, 2008 @ 2:09 pm