I had been trying to understand from people based in Jammu about the future of this agitation. It seems that the patience of Jammuites seems to be running out and youths now revolting against the elders for holding them back.
According to my sources the agitation in Jammu is likely to intensify in coming days. Should that be the case,it would be a bigger concern to the Govt. both in Jammu & Kashmir as well as the Congress = UPA government in New Delhi. The effect of this agitation may even spill over to states across India.
As the Prime Minister has been non committal about the return of Amarnath land to SASB, and even after 40 days of complete shutdown in Jammu , the anger seems to be getting more and more justified.
Another development which may take place is a a demand for re-organization of the complete state, which i would share with you as soon as I would get more inputs.
While I wish the Jammuites that may they be successful in their just agitation , i have this beautiful poster to share with them.
Question: What are the traits of a Kashmiri Muslim?
Answer
*Filthy takes bath from eid to eid
*Untrustworthy
*Always Swearing” Allaha Ki Kasam or Khuda ki Kasam” (Caution: but don’t trust them)
*Fair Skinned
*Antinational
*Anti all other religions other than Islam
*Very good and friendly as an individual but dangerous and anti hindu as a group.
*In kashmir talks anti india outside Kashmir talks as nationalist.
*Pro Pakistani
*Survives on financial aid from central govt.
*Enjoys all quotas and subsidies
*Starts Shitting rocks when he has to face a FIERCE DOGRA like me
*Uses word secularism to his convenience.
*Has looted and is using goods from hindu household who fled Kashmir.
*Does not pay water and electricity bills.
*cries crock tears.
* Burns Indian flag in Kashmir and hold Indian flag outside Kasmir.
*Talks JIHAD in Kashmir and talk WORLD PEACE out side kashmir
* Cheers for Pakistan cricket team in Kashmir and Indian Team outside Kashmir.
* Will marry a 16 year old who can be called her grand daughter.
*In kashmir will offer Namas 5 times outside Kashmir will enjoy during ramzan
*In kashmir will celebrate 14th Aug out side Kashmir celebrate 15th Aug.
*Will always manage to contradict himself on nationalism.
*Will always crib even if how much ever center govt supports them.
keep reading and enjoy
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
YOUTH SHOULD NOW TAKE COMMAND… WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE “WELL EXPERIENCED” ELDERS.
Comment by HinduWorld — August 16, 2008 @ 6:21 pm
Refer to my comment above for KASHMIRI MUSLIM which says
*Antinational
*Pro Pakistani
*In kashmir talks anti india outside Kashmir talks as nationalist.
*In kashmir will celebrate 14th Aug out side Kashmir celebrate 15th Aug
Now read the news from India’s largest selling daily newspaper.
“The youngster clambered up a telecommunication tower and hoisted a green flag as onlookers shouted pro-Pakistan slogans during a protest in Pampore on Saturday.
As chairman of hardline faction of the Hurriyat Conference, Syed Ali Geelani shouted ‘Jeevay Jeevay Pakistan’, the crowd responded in unison”
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/FullcoverageStoryPage.aspx?sectionName=&id=b3917b92-e427-41f8-8a8c-797adcbc4eedAmarnathLandRow_Special&&Headline=All+roads+lead+to+Pampore
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
Question: What is the contribution to the Nation/Community by Kashmiri Muslims And other communities of Jammu & Kashmir in last 20 years?
Answer
Kashmiri Muslims: Their contibution is 20LK Jihadis, Killers, Rapists, Destruction, Fundamentalism, Looters etc.
Other Communities: Scores of Doctors, Engineers, lawyers, Professionals, Educationists, Top notch scientists.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:37 pm
Question: Who is a secular Kashmiri Muslim?
Answer: This breed never existed or is extint, However Kashmiri Muslim uses “SECULAR” word often to his convenience when he is outside Kashmir or in a hindu dominated part of the country
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
Question: What is one unique character that makes Kashmiri Muslim distinct?
Answer: Traitor
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:44 pm
Question: Who is Kashmiri Muslim afraid of?
Answer: Accepting the fact that they were all converted hindus and murderers & Rapers of their Kashmiri Hindu friends.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:46 pm
Question: Who are Sons In Law of Govt Of India?
Answer: Kashmiri Muslims
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
Question: Name one thing that Kashmiri Muslim can not stand or do?
Answer: Praise India and other religions.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:48 pm
Question: Can you trust Kashmiri Muslim as a friend?
Answer: Traitors can not be caretakers, Killers can not be protectors, Kashmiri Muslims can not be a friends to any INDIAN.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:48 pm
Question: Do you think less education in Muslims is the reason for Jihad world over?
Answer: The more they are getting educated the more venomous they are becoming
9/11 is one example where all of the Jihadis who carried out the attacks were well educated not to mention OSAMA who is a billionaire.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:49 pm
Question: What Techniques Kashmiri Muslims applied to Drive out 5LK Kashmiri Hindus from Kashmir?
*It started with Mufti engineering his daughters abduction Mehbooba Mufti.
*Kashmiri Muslims armed with AK 47 stared threatening and killing Hindus in Kashmir
*Kashmiri Muslims openly started burning hindu houses.
*Kashmiri Muslims did not stop at this they started selectively attacking and raping Hindu women and girls.
*Mosques in Kashmir openly started threatening hindus and telling them to change their faith or leave leaving their women folk behind or face death.
* Kashmiri Muslims openly danced around the dead bodies of killed hindus.
* Kashmiri Muslims started abducting school/college going hindu girls.
* Kashmiri Muslims started grenade attacks on hindu houses.
* Kashmiri Muslim mob used to gather outside hindu houses and threaten them.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 6:53 pm
“Human trafficking” of terrorists under the garb of trade across LoC.
Saturday, 16th August was another day of protests in Kashmir. A sea of protestors descended on Pampore the hometown of Hurriyat terrorist Sheikh Aziz who was killed in police firing earlier this week.
The key demand of these separatists was to open all roads to Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and Pakistan so that people can trade freely.
A huge crowd of separatists from across the Valley gathered at Pampore to pay tribute to him. Unlike in Jammu where we have been seeing the Indian tricolor flag, the separatists in Kashmir were having the Islamic flags. In fact, on 15th August, just after the Indian flag was hoisted in Srinagar, the islamic flag was hoisted in next few hours, on the very same spot.
The separatists and terrorists want a Srinagar-Muzaffarabad corridor open. “We demand that the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad road be opened immediately so that people can trade their goods across the LoC. We also demand that all roads going to Pakistan-Occupied-Kashmir and Pakistan be opened immediately,” Omar said.
Separatists are now asking mainstream political parties to join them. All political parties will support this for various reasons. But its going to be a disaster. Terrorists will freely start “human trafficking” of terrorists from Jammu-Kashmir to Pakistan and other way round.
http://hinduworld.newsvine.com/_news/2008/08/16/1754670-human-trafficking-of-terrorists-under-the-garb-of-trade-across-loc
Comment by HinduWorld — August 16, 2008 @ 6:57 pm
Question:Which are favourite news channels of Kashmiri Muslims?
Answe: All Pakistani and NDTV(VOICE OF SEPRATISTS)
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 16, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
Happy Independence Day India & Pakistan
India Zindabad & Pakistan Bayindabad
More info on:
http://david4ever.wordpress.com
Regards
David
Comment by David — August 17, 2008 @ 3:30 am
Please read the below article carefully it was cut and paste but I think has a huge relevance
here for us
Kuldeep Trisal
Think the Unthinkable …. By Vir Sanghvi
Have you been reading the news coming out of Kashmir with a mounting sense of despair? I know I have. It’s clear now that the optimism of the last few months — all those articles telling us that normalcy had returned to Kashmir — was misplaced. Nothing has really changed since the 1990s. A single spark — such as the dispute over Amarnath land — can set the whole valley on fire, so deep is the resentment, anger and the extent of secessionist feeling. Indian forces are treated as an army of occupation. New Delhi is seen as the oppressor. There is no engagement with the Indian mainstream. And even the major political parties do not hesitate to play the Pakistan card — Mehbooba Mufti is quite willing to march to the Line of Control.
At one level, the current crisis in Kashmir is a consequence of a series of actions by the Indian establishment. New Delhi let the situation fester until it was too late. The state administration veered between inaction and over-reaction. The Sangh Parivar played politics with Hindu sentiment in Jammu, raising the confrontation to a new level.
But we need to look at the Kashmir situation in a deeper way. We can no longer treat it on a case-by-case basis: solve this crisis, and then wait and see how things turn out in the future. If the experience of the last two decades has taught us anything, it is that the situation never really returns to normal. Even when we see the outward symptoms of peace, we miss the alienation and resentment within. No matter what we do, things never get better, for very long.
It’s not as though the Indian state has no experience of dealing with secessionist movements. Almost from the time we became independent 61 years ago, we have been faced with calls for secession from nearly every corner of India: from Nagaland, Assam and Mizoram, from Tamil Nadu, from Punjab etc.
In every single case, democracy has provided the solution. We have followed a three-pronged approach: strong, almost brutal, police or army action against those engaging in violence, a call to the secessionist leaders to join the democratic process and then, generous central assistance for the rebuilding of the state. It is an approach that has worked brilliantly. Even in, say, Mizoram, where alienation was at its height in the 1970s, the new generation sees itself as Indian. The Nagas now concentrate their demands on a redrawing of state boundaries (to take in part of Manipur), not on a threat to the integrity of India. In Tamil Nadu, the Hindi agitation is forgotten and in Punjab, Khalistan is a distant memory.
The exception to this trend has been Kashmir. Contrary to what many Kashmiris claim, we have tried everything. Even today, the state enjoys a special status. Under Article 370 of our Constitution, with the exception of defence, foreign policy, and communication, no law enacted by parliament has any legitimacy in Kashmir unless the state government gives its consent. The state is the only one in India to have its own Constitution and the President of India cannot issue directions to the state government in exercise of the executive power of the Union as he can in every other state. Kashmiri are Indian citizens but Indians are not necessarily Kashmiri citizens. We cannot vote for elections to their assembly or own any property in Kashmir.
Then, there is the money. Bihar gets per capita central assistance of Rs 876 per year. Kashmir gets over ten times more: Rs 9,754 per year. While in Bihar and other states, this assistance is mainly in the forms of loans to the state, in Kashmir 90 per cent is an outright grant. Kashmir’s entire Five Year Plan expenditure is met by the Indian taxpayer. In addition, New Delhi keeps throwing more and more money at the state: in 2004, the Prime Minister gave Kashmir another $ 5 billion for development.
Kashmiris are happy to take the money and the special rights but they argue that India has been unfair to them because no free political process has developed. And, it is true that we have rigged elections in Kashmir. But, it is now nearly a decade since any rigging was alleged. Nobody disputes that the last election was fair. Moreover, even though the Congress got more seats than the PDP, the Chief Ministership went to Mufti Mohammad Sayeed as a gesture.
Given that Kashmir has the best deal of any Indian state, is there anything more we can do? Kashmiris talk about more autonomy. But I don’t see a) what more we can give them and b) how much difference it will make.
If you step back and think about it, the real question is not “how do we solve this month’s crisis”? It is: what does the Centre get in return for the special favours and the billions of dollars?
The short answer is: damn all.
As the current agitation demonstrates, far from gratitude, there is active hatred of India. Pakistan, a small, second-rate country that has been left far behind by India, suddenly acts as though it is on par with us, lecturing India in human rights and threatening to further internationalise the present crisis.
The world looks at us with dismay. If we are the largest democracy on the planet then how can we hang on to a people who have no desire to be part of India?
The other cost of Kashmir is military. Many terrorist acts, from the hijacking of IC 814 to the attack on parliament have Kashmir links. Our response to the parliament attack was Operation Parakram, which cost, in ten months, Rs 6,500 crore and 800 army lives? (Kargil cost us 474 lives.) Each day, our troops and paramilitary forces are subjected to terrorists’s attacks, stress, and ridicule.
So, here’s my question: why are we still hanging on to Kashmir if the Kashmiris don’t want to have anything to do with us?
The answer is machismo. We have been conned into believing that it would diminish India if Kashmir seceded. And so, as we lose lives and billions of dollars, the Kashmiris revel in calling us names knowing that we will never have the guts to let them go.
But would India really be diminished? One argument is that offering Kashmiris the right to self-determination would encourage every other secessionist group. But would it? Isn’t there already a sense in which we treat Kashmir as a special case? No other secessionist group gets Article 370 or so much extra consideration. Besides, if you take this line, then no solution (autonomy, soft borders etc.) is possible because you could argue that everybody else would want it too.
A second objection is that Indian secularism would be damaged by the secession of Kashmir. This is clearly not true. As history has shown, Indian Muslims feel no special kinship with Kashmir. They would not feel less Indian if some Kashmiris departed.
Moreover, too much is made of the size of Kashmir. Actually secessionist feeling is concentrated in the Valley, an area with a population of 4 million that is 98 per cent Muslim. (The Hindus either left or were driven out). Neither Jammu nor Ladakh want to secede. So, is the future of India to be held hostage to a population less than half the size of the population of Delhi?
I reckon we should hold a referendum in the Valley. Let the Kashmiris determine their own destiny. If they want to stay in India, they are welcome. But if they don’t, then we have no moral right to force them to remain. If they vote for integration with Pakistan, all this will mean is that Azad Kashmir will gain a little more territory. If they opt for independence, they will last for about 15 minutes without the billions that India has showered on them. But it will be their decision.
Whatever happens, how can India lose? If you believe in democracy, then giving Kashmiris the right to self-determination is the correct thing to do. And even if you don’t, surely we will be better off being rid of this constant, painful strain on our resources, our lives, and our honour as a nation?
This is India’s century. We have the world to conquer — and the means to do it. Kashmir is a 20th century problem. We cannot let it drag us down and bleed us as we assume our rightful place in the world.
It’s time to think the unthinkable.
Comment by Kuldeep Trisal — August 17, 2008 @ 3:47 am
To Editor:
Please fix your comment counter on this section, its not getting updated shows no comments… for this section.
Thanks,
VOJ
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 17, 2008 @ 7:40 am
It is there : 17 comments have come so far .
Thanx
Comment by pawandurani — August 17, 2008 @ 7:42 am
“With the authorities losing control of the situation fast and a fresh phase of turbulence attaining all the trappings of a religious separatist movement, heads of both factions of the separatist Hurriyat Conference, Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, have asked Kashmir’s pro-India politicians to immediately resign or else face ‘social boycott’. Geelani has called this avatar of the separatist movement as “freedom for Islam” and warned Jammu & Kashmir Police to immediately “stop your shameful atrocities on the (Kashmiri) nation or face the social boycott”.
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 17, 2008 @ 7:45 am
“Geelani said that the Kashmiris had launched a movement of ‘Azadi Bara-e-Islam’ (freedom for Islam), which, according to him, would be carried to its logical conclusion. He said that today’s mammoth rally would bring it home to all and sundry that the Kashmiris’ “freedom struggle” would continue unfazed inspite of “economic blockade and all other impediments”.
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 17, 2008 @ 7:46 am
With a contrast to the dominance of pro-freedom slogans and flags in the last 15 years, streams of participants today shouted maximum of pro-Pakistan and Islamic slogans like “Pakistan se rishta kya, la illaha illalla”, “Jeevay Jeevay Pakistan”, “Yehan kya chalega: Nizaam-e-Mustafa” besides the familiar “Ham kya chahte: Azadi”.
http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 17, 2008 @ 7:49 am
Give Kashmiris autonomy or so called FREEDOM, but while we retreat from valley take back what we have given them over years…. they want independence take every thing that is indian from KAshmir valley… Sher-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences was supposed to be AIIMS of Kashmir,, destroy it….. telecommunication infracture of Kashmir destroy that as well…what will remain of Kashmir valley if India pulls out…. noone in Kashmir pays single penny as tax…. India feeds them…take that back…STOP FEEDING KASHMIR WITH INDIAN MONEY…..
Why dont kasmiris understand this….what will keep them ruinning…what do they have to keep them going…pakistan as a country is going to dogs….we all know what happens in POK…they are worse than people in Afganistan…what people of Kashmir want…if they feel that elections were rigged in past, why dont they come out now and vote, vote for the people they want them to lead, why is Umar Farooq not ready to face ballot…the truth is that they are fed with billions by Pakis, Saudis and by Indians as welll to keep Kashmir burning…this suits all…politicians need something to work on and we provide them that…. but the practical and common sense says that Kashmir will be good with India…Pakis will feed them to dogs as they are doing to their country…country with no future…country which still lives in US aid…which had nothing to provide to their own people, what will they give to people of valley…
All the Hakims,Davids and all know this fact…that is why they are always so defensive, thats is why they try to convince us about something which they all know in their hearts is not true….after 61 years look at PAKISTAN and compare that with INDIAN UNION…see the difference…Pakistan is still nowhere…look at POK which they occupied 60 yrs back and look at Kashmir Valley….Kashmir had supiermarkets and malls long back a propoer road was laid in POK… Kashmir still has Kashmiriyat, POK has Miripuriyat…POK is dominated people from other parts of Pakistan…we all know that… Kashmir Valley has article 370…POK has shit…it still has no engineering college or medical college…Kashmir has REC’s and numerous medical colleges….India is building a railway link ( now pls dont say India is doing that for its own good) to Valley…. as far as I know POK will not have a airport as well…
So why is it that people of valley still hate India…what should India do to gain the trust…why dont people of valley choose their representatives and throw away Farooq and Mufti….elections are coming up, why dont youth like Hakim and others participate and help their people…. whole of India will respond…not Pakis…let them clear their own shit guys….INDIA will always take care of u all as it has been doing for so long…
Comment by V — August 17, 2008 @ 8:09 am
****Comment on Virsangvi’s article ****
Post 1947 after creatinon of MULLA country named “PAKISTAN” India has no obligation to ceede more land for Islamic cause. Hoever if any muslim thinks he has to ally with pakistan, he shold be given alll the aid and assistance by India in moving out his family to pakistan and their big pakistan brother should accpet them with their arms wide open then just doing a lip service to them by saying that they support their cause.
The example is how India supported and is supporting lakhs of Tibetiens.
Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 17, 2008 @ 8:12 am
we will also intensify our agitation..n wil get freedom
http://www.wular.co.cc
Comment by meh — August 17, 2008 @ 1:14 pm
Nationalists of Jammu:
You are fighting for Lord Shiva- very soul of Indian Civilization.
You have his blessings. Never compromize with Jehadis, islamists, anti-nationals, terrorists and those political parties who pamper them.
Get inspiration from Shivaji Maharaj, Guru Govind Singhji who were great follower of Lord Shiva.
Bom Bom Bhole.
Comment by Tathagata Mukherji — August 17, 2008 @ 11:01 pm
It is not time to blog/comment.
But to kick ASS.
Comment by james — August 19, 2008 @ 8:34 am
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A to Z of cruelty of ISLAM and Mohammed revealed.
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Comment by Voice Of Jammu — August 22, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
I just want to know if you are the Voice of Jammu and Kashmir posting at JW. Please mail me at arjun.sevak@rediffmail.com
Comment by arjun — August 23, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
I like to share theory on kashmir alongwith you brothers.
I react the first statement given by farooq abdullah that india should stand its pre 1953 agreement which he rightly say and i rather will be happy if he says post 1948.
Few points are :
1) Abolish land acquasation act.Lands of kashmiri pandits restore them by having excess land or zareislat.
2) Return the rule to dogra empire ( Dr karan singh who is successor)
3)Remove the army in POK
4) Allow Dr karan singh to intervene to decide which way he wants to go
5) If they say pelbistite or referandum first they have to remove mukh.
6) Through out Tibetian muslims who were rehablated by abdhullahs at hari parbhat lower ground with worth of 10 lacs peoples and 2 lacs bangladeshis,sudanese and afganis ,pakistani insurgents.
I would like u to comment on this
Comment by KP — August 26, 2008 @ 3:55 pm
On August 8, while the same politicians spluttered in Delhi and spleened in Srinagar, Farooq and Omar Abdullah chose to ignore the 55th anniversary of a seminal event in the history of Jammu and Kashmir. On the evening of August 8, 1953, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, using the powers of the Sadar-i-Riyasat Dr Karan Singh, dismissed the government of Sheikh Mohammad Abdullah, authentic hero of the freedom of India and patriarch of a dynasty that has lasted three generations.
The trigger was an intelligence report, sent by the IB officer in charge of Kashmir, B N Mullik, that Abdullah had left for Gulmarg that morning to make secret contact with a representative from Pakistan. The authenticity of this claim remains in doubt, even if time has made its veracity irrelevant. But for Nehru it was part of a pattern that he could not ignore. Abdullah’s unhappiness with Delhi, and Delhi’s disenchantment with Abdullah had become a public fact. Abdullah was certain that India was not secular enough; Delhi was equally sure that Abdullah was not Indian enough.
The suspicion had become septic during an agitation in Jammu that summer, spearheaded by the Jana Sangh (predecessor of the BJP). The Jana Sangh was formed in 1951 by Shyama Prasad Mookerjea, a Bengali stalwart of the freedom movement and member of the first Nehru Cabinet after 1947. One of the four points on the Jana Sangh’s first manifesto, released on October 21, 1951, was full integration of J&K into India. At its second annual session, in December 1952, Mookerjea announced a popular agitation for the abolition of Article 370, which gave the state specific rights.
By this time Abdullah had begun to openly flirt with ambivalence. While he had little sympathy for Pakistan, he began to crouch and leap towards the idea of independence, an option promoted by America without the camouflage of subtlety. In his biography of Nehru, S Gopal, referring to Volume 5 of The Papers of Adlai Stevenson (edited by W Johnson) notes that “some Indian leaders believed that it was Mrs Loy Henderson, wife of the United States Ambassador, and some CIA agents who encouraged Abdullah to think in these terms”.
In the summer of 1950, Abdullah was confident enough to drop broad hints to Sir Owen Dixon, the United Nations representative and publicly rebuke Delhi for giving advice outside defence, external affairs and communications. When Nehru protested, Abdullah sent a letter, dated July 10, 1950, that was a rap on the knuckles rather than a gentle hint: “I have several times stated that we acceded to India because we saw there two bright stars of hope and aspiration, namely Gandhiji and yourself, and despite our having so many affinities with Pakistan we did not join it, because we thought our programme will not fit with their policy. If, however, we are driven to the conclusion that we cannot build our state on our own lines, suited to our genius, what answer can I give to my people and how am I to face them?”
Nehru’s debilitating patience was tested further when Abdullah, in a speech at Ranbirsinghpura on April 10, 1952, dismissed full integration into India as “unrealistic, childish and savouring of lunacy”. He personalized Kashmir’s accession, saying that if anything happened to Nehru, Kashmiris would have to “provide for all eventualities”. Although Abdullah tried to make amends in Delhi and at the Madras Congress session by dismissing the idea of independence as foolish, the nuances of doublespeak (a practice that still flourishes among Kashmiri politicians, and which we have been witness to in the last few weeks with increasing intemperance) increased apprehension. Nehru wrote to Maulana Azad on March 1, 1953, “My fear is that Sheikh Sahib, in his present frame of mind, is likely to do something or take some step, which might make things worse…”
America seemed comfortable with what would be worse for India. Between May 1 and 3, Abdullah met Adlai Stevenson (Democratic candidate against Eisenhower and later to serve as US ambassador to the United Nations), their dialogue ending with a seven-hour conversation at which no one else was present. Rumours of American support for independent Kashmir became rampant, and have still not quite died. (Conferences are still frequently held in Washington offering “solutions” that are akin to independence; one such coincided with the present crisis.) On July 13, 1953, Abdullah went a stage further, saying in public, “Kashmir should have the sympathy of both India and Pakistan…It is not necessary for our State to become an appendage of either India or Pakistan.”
In that fateful summer of 1953, Jammu became the epicentre of a full-blown agitation in collaboration with the Akali Dal, led by Master Tara Singh. Nehru had added some fuel to this fire by conceding a psychologically provocative demand in what has come to be known as the Delhi Agreement, signed in 1952, by which J&K was granted its own flag. The agitation had a powerful slogan: Ek Desh mein do Vidhaan, Ek Desh mein do Nishaan, Ek Desh mein do Pradhaan, nahin challengey nahin challengey. On May 8, 1953, Mookerjea tried to cross the Madhopur bridge on the Jammu border in order to lead the agitation in Jammu. Abdullah ordered his arrest. On June 23, 1953, he died while still under detention in Abdullah’s jail.
The decision to remove Sheikh Abdullah from office had been made at least a week before August 8, on July 31, at a closed-door meeting between Nehru, Mullik and D W Mehra, deputy director of IB, amidst reports that Abdullah was preparing to dismiss what was considered the “pro-India” section of his Cabinet, including his deputy Bakshi Ghulam Mohammad. Mullik describes Nehru as “being nearly overwhelmed by emotion…we realized that he was on the point of uprooting a plant which he had nursed with great care”.
There were few contemporaries for whom Nehru had greater affection or admiration. If Sardar Patel brought the rest of the princely states (barring Hyderabad) into the Union of India, then it was the political-personal friendship of Nehru and Abdullah that brought Kashmir to India. Kashmir was not simply the geographical frontier of secular India, it was also its ideological frontier —in Abdullah’s words, the “stabilizing force for India”.
Hakim and shadhat how ur faces are u have betrayed kashmir and kashmiryat without any cause somebody is using for their benifits.you will become educated slaves in the hands of pakistani terriorist mullahas who preach in the sacrerd place where u worship and talk about killing of peoples”is this written in ur islam “. For the sake of peanut u will loose coconut definetly .No way u will get Azadi………… 61 yrs ur fighting but see our honesty me have not changed demography of kashmir and look at the POK pakistan has changed the whole area kashmiris are their in minority.
Fight for POK get back that area which is with ur Father (pakistan)O.Atleast he will listen as he ur father and as father he will not deny the wish of child.
KP said, on August 26th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Nehru began the process of assimilation with geography. There were two pre-Partition routes linking Srinagar to its south, one via Murree, Rawalpindi and Lahore, and the second through Sialkot. Neither would be available to India after Partition. There was a miserable third option, a dirt track via Gurdaspur vulnerable to weather.
Gurdaspur was a Muslim-majority district and the whole of it could have easily gone to Pakistan. Before Sir Cyril Radcliffe arrived in India to map partition, Nehru lobbied hard with Mountbatten to keep this dirt tract within India. When the Radcliffe Award was announced on August 16, Gurdaspur had been split along the line of the Ravi, and Nehru had achieved his purpose. Pakistan has consistently claimed that this was done because of the “personal” influence that Nehru had on the Mountbattens. The road link proved vital when war broke out over Kashmir within six weeks of Partition. It is ironic that the first country to blockadesupplies to Srinagar was Pakistan, in early October 1947, as a prelude to hostilities. The official excuse was communal disturbances.
Keeping Kashmir in India proved more difficult than its accession: against the war-energy of Pakistan, international pressure and domestic turmoil. Nehru had made one mistake, when taking, under Mountbatten’s advice, the Kashmir issue to the United Nations. He was not going to make another. Friendship with Abdullah became irrelevant. There could be no compromise with the security of India. Sixty people died in the disturbances that followed Abdullah’s dismissal, but a potential threat to Indian unity had been averted.
Five and a half decades later, a successor government of the Congress seems impotent as allies like Mehbooba Mufti brazenly threaten to open links with Pakistan, friends proclaim nationalism in Delhi and duplicity in the valley, and pro-Pakistan leaders like Geelani are “liberated” by crowds with utter contempt for authority.Nehru began the process of assimilation with geography. There were two pre-Partition routes linking Srinagar to its south, one via Murree, Rawalpindi and Lahore, and the second through Sialkot. Neither would be available to India after Partition. There was a miserable third option, a dirt track via Gurdaspur vulnerable to weather.
Gurdaspur was a Muslim-majority district and the whole of it could have easily gone to Pakistan. Before Sir Cyril Radcliffe arrived in India to map partition, Nehru lobbied hard with Mountbatten to keep this dirt tract within India. When the Radcliffe Award was announced on August 16, Gurdaspur had been split along the line of the Ravi, and Nehru had achieved his purpose. Pakistan has consistently claimed that this was done because of the “personal” influence that Nehru had on the Mountbattens. The road link proved vital when war broke out over Kashmir within six weeks of Partition. It is ironic that the first country to blockade supplies to Srinagar was Pakistan, in early October 1947, as a prelude to hostilities. The official excuse was communal disturbances.
Keeping Kashmir in India proved more difficult than its accession: against the war-energy of Pakistan, international pressure and domestic turmoil. Nehru had made one mistake, when taking, under Mountbatten’s advice, the Kashmir issue to the United Nations. He was not going to make another. Friendship with Abdullah became irrelevant. There could be no compromise with the security of India. Sixty people died in the disturbances that followed Abdullah’s dismissal, but a potential threat to Indian unity had been averted.
Five and a half decades later, a successor government of the Congress seems impotent as allies like Mehbooba Mufti brazenly threaten to open links with Pakistan, friends proclaim nationalism in Delhi and duplicity in the valley, and pro-Pakistan leaders like Geelani are “liberated” by crowds with utter contempt for authority.
Nehru began the process of assimilation with geography. There were two pre-Partition routes linking Srinagar to its south, one via Murree, Rawalpindi and Lahore, and the second through Sialkot. Neither would be available to India after Partition. There was a miserable third option, a dirt track via Gurdaspur vulnerable to weather.
Gurdaspur was a Muslim-majority district and the whole of it could have easily gone to Pakistan. Before Sir Cyril Radcliffe arrived in India to map partition, Nehru lobbied hard with Mountbatten to keep this dirt tract within India. When the Radcliffe Award was announced on August 16, Gurdaspur had been split along the line of the Ravi, and Nehru had achieved his purpose. Pakistan has consistently claimed that this was done because of the “personal” influence that Nehru had on the Mountbattens. The road link proved vital when war broke out over Kashmir within six weeks of Partition. It is ironic that the first country to blockade supplies to Srinagar was Pakistan, in early October 1947, as a prelude to hostilities. The official excuse was communal disturbances.
Keeping Kashmir in India proved more difficult than its accession: against the war-energy of Pakistan, international pressure and domestic turmoil. Nehru had made one mistake, when taking, under Mountbatten’s advice, the Kashmir issue to the United Nations. He was not going to make another. Friendship with Abdullah became irrelevant. There could be no compromise with the security of India. Sixty people died in the disturbances that followed Abdullah’s dismissal, but a potential threat to Indian unity had been averted.
Five and a half decades later, a successor government of the Congress seems impotent as allies like Mehbooba Mufti brazenly threaten to open links with Pakistan, friends proclaim nationalism in Delhi and duplicity in the valley, and pro-Pakistan leaders like Geelani are “liberated” by crowds with utter contempt for authority.
written by akbar
Comment by KP — August 26, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
Thanks KP for the very Informative piece of Information and I just picked up the cream which had got caught In-between somewhere and here it is:
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Hakim and shadhat how ur faces are u have betrayed kashmir and kashmiryat without any cause somebody is using for their benifits.you will become educated slaves in the hands of pakistani terriorist mullahas who preach in the sacrerd place where u worship and talk about killing of peoples”is this written in ur islam “. For the sake of peanut u will loose coconut definetly .No way u will get Azadi………… 61 yrs ur fighting but see our honesty me have not changed demography of kashmir and look at the POK pakistan has changed the whole area kashmiris are their in minority.
Fight for POK get back that area which is with ur Father (pakistan)O.Atleast he will listen as he ur father and as father he will not deny the wish of child.
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Best regards
Anil
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Comment by VOICE OF JAMMU — August 28, 2008 @ 8:29 am
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what ever he writes it is myth and has no history behind.
Comment by KP — August 28, 2008 @ 2:53 pm
Use of Islamic Knowledge of Health and Hygiene Is a Must for A muslim,
Ayesah Ahmed
Use of western knowledge is kufr (blasphemy) and its parishioners are apostates and infidels. Only Islamic knowledge of health and hygiene must be used in daily life because Allah has already given that information through Prophet Mohammed for a reason. In Quran he said so many times that he is your role model. Ignoring his sayings is ignoring your deen (religion) punishable with hellfire
The following information is presented for the good health of Muslim umma (believers).
Avoid Sicknesses By Clean Islamic Habbits
HOW TO CLEAN YOURSELF AFTER DEFECATING, THE ISLAMIC WAY
Apostle of God used to clean himself after defecation using only odd number of stones. That is the sunna (examples set by Muhammad). Muslims living in U.S. can go to Home Depot and buy a bag of gravel for this purpose (the used gravel can be good landscaping material).
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 163:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, ” whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do so with odd numbers. And whoever wakes up from his sleep should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution, because nobody knows where his hands were during sleep.”
NEVER USE BONES OR ANIMAL DUNG AFTER DEFECATING
Jinns love to eat bones and dried animal dung. They don’t appreciate the contamination of their favourite delicacy with fecal matter and can pounce on the next guy they find sitting and defecating.
Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 200:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
That once he was in the, company of the Prophet carrying a water pot for his ablution and for cleaning his private parts. While he was following him carrying it (i.e. the pot), The Prophet said, “Bring me stones in order to clean my private parts, and do not bring any bones or animal dung.”
“What about the bone and the animal dung?” He said, “They are of the food of Jinns. The delegate of Jinns of (the city of) Nasibin came to me–and how nice those Jinns were–and asked me for the remains of the human food. I invoked Allah for them that they would never pass by a bone or animal dung but find food on them.”
HOW TO URINATE
You must keep your right hand clean to hold Quran.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 156:
Narrated Abu Qatada:
The Prophet said, “Whenever anyone of you urinates he should not hold his penis or clean his private parts with his right hand.
WASH YOUR NOSE FROM INSIDE IN THE MORNING
In the morning wash your nose from inside as Satan urinates and defecates inside while spending the night there. Otherwise you will have runny nose all day besides possible nose infections.
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night.”
WASH YOUR EARS FROM INSIDE IF YOU WAKE UP LATE
If you wake up late in the morning and miss the fajr prayer, Satan who spends the night in your nose walks out and urinates in your ears. It results in ear infection.
Bukhari Volume 2, Book 21, Number 245:
Narrated ‘Abdullah :
A person was mentioned before the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and he was told that he had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said, “Satan urinated in is ears.”
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 492:
Narrated ‘Abdullah:
It was mentioned before the Prophet that there was a man who slept the night till morning (after sunrise). The Prophet said, “He is a man in whose ears (or ear) Satan had urinated.”
OTHER GOOD HABBITS FOR GOOD HEALTH
Tabari II:99
“Abraham was tested with ten Islamic practices: rinsing the mouth, cleansing nostrils with water, trimming the mustache, using a toothstick, plucking the armpit (ouch), paring nails, washing finger joints, circumcision, shaving pubic hair, and washing the rear and vulva.”
WOMEN MUST BE SHAVED
A shaved woman makes a tired husband after a long journey very happy.
Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 173:
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:
The Prophet said, “If you enter (your town) at night (after coming from a journey), do not enter upon your family till the woman whose husband was absent (from the house) shaves her pubic hair .”
WOMEN MUST BE CIRCUMCISED
Circumcision keeps a woman from doing hanky panky thus protecting her from hellfire.
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 5251:
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:
A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina . The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.
MENSTRUATION IS ILLNESS WHICH CAN BE CURED BY FONDLING
Mens
Comment by vid123 — September 5, 2008 @ 11:57 am
please again again i m requesting do not waste your worthy time on watching all types of bitch, bastards, who doesnot have any better news, then hurting hindu sentiments may it be Shriamarnath or ShriRamsethu or ShriRamjanmabhoomi or ShriKrishnajanmabhoomi or ShriKashivishvanathbhoomi or thousands of razed HinduShrines across INDIA PAKISTAN BANGLADESH AFGHANISTAN. FOR kind awareness to all my HINDU brothers & sisters, are you aware that non of the mark my words that non of our BHAGWAN JANMBHOOMI is in our hand. All this sacred worship places,,, ON WHICH MASJID ARE STANDING.HIstory will repeat it self when ALL HINDUS WILL AWAKE & RISE FOR THERE RIGHT.No body is going to come to change the scene we only have to rise for our RIGHT.Now i donot belive in making understand that how we fill.WE DO NOT NEED TO JUSTIFY OUR SELF. This the time for DIRECT ACTION. NOTHING LESS WILL DO EXCEPT, HINDU NATION, HINDURAJ. And most important is who ever, repeat who ever DO NO AGREE THEY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OUR ONLY HINDU NATION. Now next step should be appointing our HINDU GOVERMENT WITH TAG OF ONLY HINDU NATION . Quote: ALL MUSLIM ARE NOT TERORIST BUT ALL TERORIST ARE MUSLIM. AND we should not forget damm kennth haywood who is still under scrutiny of ATS , they have not given him clean chit.This also shows involvement of UPA CONGRESS SP RJD
Comment by vid123 — September 5, 2008 @ 6:03 pm
I wish to add to mr. kp’s knowledge that kashmiri muslims didnt drive them out.. it was governor jagmohan who drove them out. he was a hardline communal governor. he asked the kashmiri pandits to flee kashmir and then he would start the genocide of muslims in kashmir. Kashmiri pandits left kashmir, but jagmohan didnt succeed in his evil designs. and the kashmiri pandits due to their own selfish interests got landless. they also accuse kashmiri muslims of raping their girls. but the fact is that none of the pandit girls was raped here. but they were raped by dogras in jammu.
seccession was not our idea but of pandits which eventually got voice of muslims also. we shouldnt forget that Mr. Sheikh Abdullah who was a muslim brought indian army to kashmir and the pandits opposed it at that time also. and now they claim to be nationalists. atleast we kashmiris are nationalist as far as kashmir is concerned. Pandits are non patriots. mr kp plz comment..u wont find a single lie..its all truth.. as u r my kashmiri brother i wouldnt expose u further,,otherwise thers a lot to EXPOSE..
Comment by Saadat — September 8, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
SAADAT
NICE STORY TELL THAT TO UR HUMAN RIGHTS CRAP AND NOT US……
IT WAS JAGMOHAN UWHO ASKED MOSQUES TO ANNOUNCE THAT PANDITS SHOULD LEAVE OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE KILLED……… AMAZING……
AND MUSLIMS WERE FORCED BY JAGMOHAN TO GOTO PAKISTAN AND COME BACK AND KILL PANDITS SELECTIVELY
UR ISLAMIC MILLITANTS WERE GETTING DIRECT ORDERS FROM JAGMOHAN…..
GIVE IT A BREAK WHAT DID U DO TO PANDITS THAT STAYED BACK REMEMBER WANDHAMA ……. SORRY THAT WAS ORDERED BY JAGMOHAN TOOO
ASK UR MILITANT BROTHERS WHAT THEY DID BEFORE CHOPPING THE GIRLS THROUGH WOOD SAW….. GIVE ME A BREAK …. OK THAT WAS THE DESIGN OF JAGMOHAN TOO…..
WHERE DID THE GUNS COME FROM….. OOPS JAGMOHAN BOUGHT FROM PAKISTAN FROM HIS PERSONAL A/C
U PEOPLE BURNED AND DESTROYED TEMPLES AND PROPERTIES IN KASHMIR…. THAT WAS FORCED BY JAGMOHAN TOOO….
THE FACT IS U CAN BLAME ANY ONE SHEIKK OR JAGMOHAN OR UR FORE FATHERS….. BUT TRUTH IS TRUTH…..
THE ONLY REASON I SEE FOR YOUR AND OUR SUFFERING IS ISLAM AND THE TEACHINGS IN QURAN….. LIFE OF MUHAMMAD IS AN EYE OPENER….. FOR ALL OF US………
NOW TELL ME IS IT JAGMOHAN OR ISLAM TO BLAME……
THE ANSWER IS CRYSTAL CLEAR….. ISLAM
YOU ARE MY KASHMIRI BROTHER MUSLIM REALISE THAT U HAVE SUFFERED A LOT DUE TO ISLAM AND TIME HAS COME TO JOIN HANDS AND ABANDON ISLAM… THINK
ANIL
Comment by koul Anil — September 8, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
Dear saadat,
First of all your knowledge is very short and limited which is because of the fact in your blood if any body wants to Milk the serpant what will he do you are know……………………
Same is the case with you what you will expose me i can make u and ur ansistors nude.
it was we saved your life during maharaja gulab singh who wants all muslims to be reconverted into hindu sweepers.
it was kashmiri pandit who oppose so talk in sense and speak truth as allaha is watching your sins.
Comment by KP — September 15, 2008 @ 4:15 pm
Saadat
I have enough evidance to prove you wrong.
your voice is within kashmir supported by pakistan
nothing else only baseless story.
Talking about jagmohan who has saved our life but some bitches doesn’t like we were the dust in their eyes including our muslim neighoubers who threatned us.
This is kashmiri muslim who changes his color when and then like girgit.
Comment by KP — September 15, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
##but the fact is that none of the pandit girls was raped here
Stop bullshitting …. look here
http://www.kashmir-information.com/atrocities/1.html
##as u r my kashmiri brother i wouldnt expose u further
This is all crap the brotherhood was killed when we left valley, so stop non-sense and work for your freedom .
We know you will backstab us everytime so we can’t coexist now , do you get it now ???
Peace
Comment by Vicky — September 15, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
koul Anil
##Dear saadat,
This is our weakness, you can see how baseless statements he is making and you are calling him dear. wtf …
This is crap ….completely non sense. It is because of this we have always been betrayed.
Sorry I don’t have anything against you but such statement should not be encourage, let us speak to them bluntly (those who blame jagmohan for our move) .
Peace
Comment by Vicky — September 15, 2008 @ 5:45 pm
DEAR VICKY,,,,,
THAT IS OUR CULTURE …..
AND I AM REALLY NOT AGAINST MUSLIMS BUT ISLAM
I AM NOT AGAINST TERRORISTS BUT THEIR MOTIVATION AND THINKING — THAT IS ISLAM
LET US GIVE HIM RESPECT AS A HUMAN THAT HE WILL BECOME HOPEFULLY SOON WHEN HE LEAVES — ISLAM
NOW WANTED TO ASK U GUYS A QUESTION, FOR LAST 20 MINS I WAS SEARCHING THROUGH THE PAGES HERE LOOKING FOR DR.WAHEED SHAIEK AND HIS COMMENTS AND REPLIES GIVEN BACK TO HIM…. IF U CAN HELP ME WHERE IS IT LOCATED IT WILL BE GREAT HELP…… I AM PLANNING TO WRITE ABOUT HIS BLOG … BASED ON THAT….
THANKS
ANIL
Comment by koul Anil — September 15, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
anil check the the link in top clicks you will find the blog, i am unable to post it here .
Peace
Comment by Vicky — September 15, 2008 @ 6:31 pm
I KNOW THE LINK TO HIS SITE I DONT WANT THAT—- I HAD REPLIED TO HIM HERE IN ONE OF THE PAGES— HE HAD COMMENTED WITH THE SAME NAME — I AM NOT ABLE TO LOCATE IN WHICH PAGE — I NEED TO COPY WHAT HE HAD WRITTEN AND MY REPLY TO HIM AND ANSWER TO HIM ON THIS SITE — IT IS NO USE GOING TO HIS PAGE — BECAUSE HE WILL NOT POST ALL WHAT WE SAY AND MOREOVER HE IS IN SAUDI — AND HE CANT SEE OR VISIT MOST OF THE REFERENCES WE GIVE HIM — ISLAM MAKES MUSLIMS LOOK THROUGH GREEN GLASS ONLY —-
I WILL LOOK AROUND MAY BE EDITOR CAN HELP ME —-
THANKS
ANIL
Comment by koul Anil — September 15, 2008 @ 6:47 pm