Speech, Blog, Iphone & Lies of Mr. Omar Abdullah
It took me quite a while to decide about the subject of this post. I did not want to be as blunt in the subject-line as I ended up doing. The reason being that not much long ago i still believed that Omar was a bit different from the rest of Kashmir leadership. Finally I decided the subject as I have chosen would still do the least of justice to this post.
Last one week, India has witnessed and discussed the recent speeches made in parliament of India,which also happens to be the black day of Indian democracy.
Omars speech was admired for the passion and Barkha Dutt even went ahead to write in a newspaper column that her”Oscar” goes to Omar for his speech. I still fail to understand of what makes people of Indian subcontinent to admire a speech ? Is the leader supposed to hold a comedy show to make the parliament of India laugh or resort to rhetoric to get noticed finally ? For me the speech was all sound and fury but woefully short of substance.
Omars speech had been full of lies and self contradictions.And i feel ashmed that the “educated” people of India falied to notice it. Here it goes ………
AMERICA : FRIEND or FOE OF MUSLIMS ?
“The US is no friend of the Muslim world that is a point well ” – Omar Abdullah in his Blog on 4th July
That Comment made me think that was it right for a leader to make who has been the MOS for External Affairs in Govt of India and who still holds chance to become a minister again. I asked him through his blog if his opinion is based on Omar’s experience of having been the former minister in external affairs ministry or because of you being a Muslim ?
Though not expected Omars reply came and he said “Why does it have to based on one of the other? Why not because of both or because of a completely different reason? Perhaps its based on what I see, read and understand.“
“the enemies of Indian Muslims are not the Americans, and the enemies of the Indian Muslims are not ‘deals’ like this” – Omar Abdullah in Parliament
Which Omar Abdullah do we trust. The Omar Abdullah who considers America not a friend of Muslim world or the Omar Abdullah who admits in parliament that America is not the enemy of Indian Muslims ? Is he playing to different galleries at different times in short span ?
Mr Abdullah , Would you care to clarify ? What exactly do think America is …a friend or a foe of muslims ?
ON AMARNATRH YATRA :
“You show me one place where Kashmiris have attacked Amarnath Yatra Pligrims“- Omar Abdullah in Parliament
Omar , though aspiring to be the next Chief Minister of the troubled state of Jammu & Kashmir is so away from facts and news and it is something I find it hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that Omar who plans to blog through his Iphone can not care to google the history of number of attacks which have happened on Amarnath Pligrims in last 19 years …atleast.. A simple google can refer him dates when 10 people were killed and when two got killed in grenade balsts and it seems he has been so involved with parliament trust vote that he is not even aware of the blast in Srinagar on Amarnath pilgrims when 5 people got killed , though unfortunately the victims turned out to be migrant labourers. In 2008 atleast four major attacks have happened to Amarnath Yatra piligrims at Banihal, Gulmarg, Ganderbal and Batmaloo.
Omar. Wake up …your Iphone can google as well !
ON AMARNATH …. FIGHT OF NATIVES ……. & KASHMIRIS NOT BEING COMMUNAL…ON KASHMIRIS NOT BREAKING TEMPLES ETC ETC .
Omars Speech in parliament was probably to convey a message to people of valley that he can be as communal as Ms Mehbooba Mufti or Syed Ali Shah Geelani.
How can Omar decide for Amarnath Yatra land to be handed over for Yatris or not . Amarnath Yatra is linked to Kashmiri Pandits for thousands of years.What Omar has tried to alter the history. His knowledge about Amarnath goes only as back as communal elements of Kashmir want him to Know . What he does not know is that Amarnath Yatra has been happening since almost 2000 years , even before Islam came to Kashmir . Linking Amarnath to “false” benevolence of Kashmiri muslims . Omar needs to read this article or Rajtangini to know about the history of Amarnath Yatra if at all he has to speak about this Amarnath Yatra.
He speaks about Kashmiris not having destroyed temples is again a gesture to mislead the people of the country. In a place where only temples have been destroyed, his memory fails to recollect it. For his memory here is the partial list of attacks on Temples in Kashmir ,if he ever tries to speak truth again. For a little more detailed list of destruction of temples , Omar may visit this link.
No wonder this comes from the president of the party whose activist was one of the founder of terrorism in J&K and was a National Conference man and later become commander in chief of JKLF . The person who was H in HAJY gang was non other than Hamid Sheikh .
Mr Omar Abdullah also said in Parliament that he was a Muslim and was an Indian too and that he found no difference between the two. I wonder why Omar preferred to issue no statement on this issue when threats were served to the non Kashmiris ( labourers) to leave the valley ?
ON his blog when he was confronted by a reader (soulinexile) that his Iphone is illegal in India, Omar had come to his own defence by stating that he has bought the Iphone in France where it was illegal for Apple to sell locked phone . Though it was quick one from Omar , but what he missed out was by stating this he has once again lied to his readers . What he does not know is that even the unlocked Iphone bought in France wont work in India . iPhone sold in France— is not really unlocked. It retains a country lock, meaning the device will only allow use of SIM cards for carriers that operate in France. In other words, you can’t take your French, “unlocked” iPhone to Spain, the United States, or anywhere else, pop in a foreign SIM card, and make calls on a local carrier — you’re still stuck paying international roaming fees to your French carrier. Check here for details.
Do you Omar , still have the guts to admit that you have been lying ? Whether it is Amarnath , Kashmir or Iphones ?
Hate Me As you would …..but the fact remains !! Satymeva Jayate !!
Once again Indian media and politicians have shown that their memory is short livid, they are timid and they do not have courage enough to expose communal Omar.
It is a well known fact that Omar, a half Kashmiri, belongs to a communal family who were equally responsible for ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pundits as any other Islamic group of Kashmir. He can talk freely about Babri and Godra episode on any forum but there is no one to shut him up by saying that he should first look at what he and his clan has done to Hindus and Hindu places in Kashmir.
Omar has tricked Indian people yet again. Once again Omar has made fool of all Indians. It is a shame. In the Parliament of India, he has the guts to talk about Babri masjid and Gujarat but there was not a single MAN to counter him. Shame on Indian politicians and Indian media!
GOD BLESS INDIA
KP
July 27, 2008 at 9:07 am
One feels sorry that instead of making amends and working for normalisation of situation statements like these only further aggrevate the situation. This is another caseof muddling the whole issue–and adding to the communal and regional division in the State. Very unfortunate !
Prof. G.K.Muju
July 27, 2008 at 9:11 am
i quite agree wid the blogger , we are tired of pseudo- secular ppl in this country
ppl like
javed akhtar
shabana
teesta
mullah mahesh bhatt
, we need not listen to those and we need a pm who can take a bold step and do sumthing which will take india to next level
maulik
July 27, 2008 at 9:28 am
With lakhs and lakhs of Hindu brain drain from India every year, we are suppose to be left behind with such sickulars and bunch of mullahs only.By the way Omar is half British and half mullah.It seems this **** kashmiri guy has not read well about the history of his own place.
rajveer
July 27, 2008 at 10:02 am
Good post.
Rk
July 27, 2008 at 12:54 pm
One more point is worthy to note that Omnar Abdullah made mention in parable in the parliament and the leaders like Manmohan singh and Sonia alongwith other UPA ministers tapped the desk in jubiliation without knowing what he said.
“———I am Muslim……..”
What do u mean by that Mr Omar??? Do u mean to say u are not secular and that secularism is an anathema for u???? Do u mean that secular India does not exist? Do u mean that u do not respect other religions??? In the history, No parliamentarian has ever mentioned that he was a Hindu, Sikh or Christian. That shows the stature of politicians and their ethics ????????
vijay hashia
vijay hashia
July 27, 2008 at 3:25 pm
i would just like to know how much did mr. omar abdullah receive to suddenly wake his conscience on gujrat after 4 and1/2 years
rita
July 27, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Thank u for sharing such nice comments i would recommend u to get these points published in some magazines or others.
Digit
July 27, 2008 at 4:30 pm
nice to get the facts straight……..
lies and double standard are in his blood…..
he is exposed……..
sahil
July 27, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Omar Abdullah just did what Islam has taught him. A Muslim is permitted to lie in the company of Kafirs i.e Hindus. Qur’an commands Muslims to deny the truth when they are in Dar-ul-Harb. This Islamic principle of lying is known as Al-Taqiyya.
Muslim Indians (Well, there is no such thing as “Indian Muslim”. Islam first, Country second) are experts in denying the history of Islamic atrocities on Hindus in the last 1400 years.
By lying in the Indian Parliament, Omar Abdullah has only tried to become a better Muslim, a true Muslim.
Bhavya Ketan
July 27, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Half Kashmiri Omar is no different than his grand father and his father. One should not be surprised to hear from anti Hindu Antinational English media encouraging antinational elements Burkha Dutt and her elks are famous for promoting terrorist like Yasim Malik, Muftis and Abdullahs on the name of secularism and free speech. It is a black day in Indian parliament history that Omar could talk about Gujarat riots and Barbari muszid and there was not a single parliamentarian asking him……..
What happened to Proud Kashmiri Hindus when his father was chief minister?
Where are these five lakh kashmiri Hindus who had to leave their mother land.
Why are they refugees in their own country?
Why is it that criminals who committed hideous crimes against Hindus are running free?
Why is Anantnaag renamed to Islamabadh. Changing Sanskrit names into Arabic names was started by Omar’s Grand father when he was CM this I guess was called Kashmiriyat Omar’s families starting from his grand father are masters of communal politics and double talks his family has mastered the art and in the process lynched India.
Under Omar’s grand fathers administration they took away the land from Hindus without paying any compensation to them and distributed it to Muslims on the name of reform. So his family has worked very hard to create the atmosphere to force Hindus out from valley and now he says that transfer any land to amaranth will be over the dead body and our secularist Parliament and English Media is cheering Mr. Omar Abdullah. Way to go….
Bhartki Naari
July 28, 2008 at 5:17 am
It is not the time to disect and bark like barking dogs it is time to act to do something for ur country & not only sit, talk and point what other person is saying. In this fast world do you have so much time and dont waste your time like that. If you feel ur better than umar then do something be more successful than him dont hamper his path.
kashmiri
July 28, 2008 at 5:19 am
Post # 12. It does not reflect well to use Hanz language in public.
disgusted
July 28, 2008 at 5:47 am
DEAR BLOGGER
‘AMERICA IS NOT A FRIEND OF THE MUSLIM WORLD’- Isn’t it a true statement?
But what really matters is- ‘IS INDIA A MUSLIM COUNTRY’?
And if you have some sanity left’WHY MIX BOTH THE STATEMENTS’?
INDIA IS AN INDEPENDANT COUNTRY WITH AN INDEPENDANT FOREIGN POLICY, VERY MUCH IN THE THRESHHOLD OF GROWTH. OMAR, ALONG WITH PPL LIKE RAHUL GANDHI, J SCINDIA, S PILOT ARE A VERY SMALL GENUINE MINORITY HAILING FROM THE EDUCATED WORLD WITH VISIONS OF THEIR OWN FOR THE REAL BETTERMENT OF THE COUNTRY.
AND IF YOU CAN’T SUPPORT THEM OR GIVE THEM THEIR CHANCE, AL LEAST TRY NOT TO KILL THEIR SPIRITS!!!That is only if you are TRUE INDIAN!
ss
July 28, 2008 at 5:59 am
Dear SS
If you realy are true Indian then you should look around and reflect on past ten days what do you see? You seem to be sleeping wake up and smell the coffe. It is MUSLIMS who can not be trusted. World is waking up to that fact but It will take some time for Muslim appeasing antinational politicians to figur that out. Amaricans are nationalist they will not sell themselves for votes.
“AMERICA IS NOT A FRIEND OF THE MUSLIM WORLD’- Isn’t it a true statement?”
kk
July 28, 2008 at 6:22 am
Dear KK
I think you have to put the whole picture in proper perspective.
Terrorists have NO RELIGION, but only FILTHY MINDS.
It was NOT HINDUS who were behind Gujarat Riots and it is NOT MUSLIMS who are behind the recent blasts. But a filthy and un-educated set of ppl who have calls themselves as Hindus or Mulims; who either are puppets of vote bank politics or owners of dirty minds.
Therefore, lets not label terrorists as religious. Neither a true HINDU nor a true MUSLIM will get into such terrible acts.
What we essentially need are INDIANS who think about their country- no matter what religion they practice.
Its high time at least the educated community start looking at things OBJECTIVELY!!!
ss
July 28, 2008 at 6:44 am
I WISH OMAR BEST OF LUCK BY DECLARING HIMSELF TO BE A TRUE LEADER OF MUSLIMS.DOES HE REMEMBER HOW MUSLIMS TARGETTED HINDUS IN KASHMIR.HE ,ALONGWITH HIS FATHER DID NOT UTTER A WORD,WHEN 4 LACS OF KASHMIRI HINDUS WERE DRIVEN OUT OF KASHMIR .I WONDER HOW HE DARES TO CALL HIMSELF A SECULAR PERSON.,
dilip kaul
July 28, 2008 at 8:30 am
Good discription about facts pawan, but as you would also know politicians especialy who come in politics by virtue of their family being in politics are less aware about the facts and make speeches based upon hear say are known to change their stands at some other day. I wont be surperised that after some time he would come out with a speech and say that what he said was misinterpreted and he actualy ment somethin else.
Anyways keep up the good work.
MD
July 28, 2008 at 9:07 am
Dear ss
Fact remains 90% of terrorism around the world is supported by Islamist. So how can any one say they do not have religion. What are followers are Islam called they are called Muslim but I may still grant you that it is not indidividual Muslim who is threat to the world piece but collective followers of Islam. We Indians thought We are free from Mughal invaders and British Raj…..It was Muslims (so called neighbors and friends) who raped killed threatened from Mosques posted threats and announced in their daily news papers “yaha kaya chaleega nizamee mostafa” We will make Kashmir with Hindu women without hindu men” (This was said in Kashmiri)That is what drove five lakh Kashmiri hindus out of velly in Omar Abdulas fathers administration. It was state sponsored terrorism against Kashmiri Hindus and Omar Abdullah father was chief minister. There was no reaction from sold out English media .People talk about Gujarat riots but they forget to mention GODRA where Hindu Men Women and children were burned alive so Gujarat riots were the reaction to GODRA. I guess Atrocities committed on Hindus and in particular Kashmiri Hindus is not crime in Independent India. What right does Omar Abdullah have to call any body else communal? What makes him and his father and grand father secular?
kk
July 28, 2008 at 12:09 pm
4 weeks of curfew in jammu for Amarnath yatra…….one person even laid down his life…….media coverage is 1/5th of what the kashmir stir got………………….Is it the TRP….. or someone is really playing the media………who knows days of jazia and muslim rule might come back….
Amit
July 28, 2008 at 4:14 pm
it was all for the political mileage he has been able to generate out of this 1 speech and increased his chances of a ministerial candidature again…
arvind
July 29, 2008 at 5:53 am
I am not surprised at what Omar Abdullah said in the parliament. The lies, intrigue, manipulations and double speak has been the hall mark of what defines the Abdullah family’s politics. All members of the family right from their patriarch Sheikh Abdullah to Omar including his father Farooq have constantly displayed chameleonic character by brazenly doing a volta face as per their convenience. Thus we find the family’s political history laced with shameless contradictions and which continue even now. The family has a history of saying one thing in Delhi and then stating the opposite in Kashmir. Omar Abdullah is playing to the fundamentalist constituency in Kashmir and myopic media is turning a blind eye to that. I must admit I am a great fan of the family for its ability to fool the Indians for such a long time. This has ensured that nobody thinks of calling their bluff.
I would like to challenge Omar Abdullah to repeat,” I am a muslim and I am an Indian…” in any public meeting in Kashmir. If he does that my head will bow before him and if he doesn’t dare, then for me his speech in Parliament will remain an act of hollow rhetoric.
Kamal Hak
kamal hak
July 29, 2008 at 7:19 am
No Leader in J&K works in the interest of the state or country. They are not bothered about the people suffering for the last 18 yrs of terrorism. All are working for their vested interests what may.It is the battle among them in which a common man is suffering & struggling to survive. they can never empathise with the situation of a common man,why shud they be bothered, they are not suffering, they have not lost their brothers, sisters, sons, relatives…. think about the child who was yet to open his eyes to this cruel world & was put to breath his last before he could understand life (Wandhama massacre).what was his mistake?? can any leader answer this?? he did not trouble anyone in this world. he could not even understand the meaning of religion that time. what did the leaders do to do the justice with that child. NOTHING!! If they really wanted to
solve the kasmir issue they would have done it long back. i cant understand how can a person become so inhuman that he can kill a child just for nothing. i really feel pity for J&K & for India who has no real leaders.
An Indian & a Kashmiri
July 29, 2008 at 11:07 am
I agree with Mr. Amit that media is not covering even 1/5 of the things happening in Jammu. Even am puzzled why??
SSG
July 29, 2008 at 11:48 am
Omar Abdullah is a “******”. He is a liar.
Bikram
August 5, 2008 at 7:18 pm
My first question is that – What will the PM discuss with the regional parties from J&K ? The main regional parties of J&K are PDP and NC and these parties are full of anti-India leaders.
Take the case of Mufti Mohammad Sayeed – He was the one who actually started the terrorism in J&K. He fabricated the kidnapping of his own daughter in 1990, for which the Govt. of India had to pay the price of releasing the then dreaded terrorists. This incident triggered the exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits from the valley. Now also he is the one who has created the issue out of the Amrnath Shrine Board land transfer.
Now take the case of Umar Abdullah of NC. What did he mean when he so blatantly said these lines in the parliament “yeh zameen humari hai”. Did he mean that the land of Kashmir belongs to his family, or did he mean that the land of Kashmir belongs to only Kashmiri people or did he mean that the land belonged to the entire India. If he meant that the land belonged to only the Kashmiri people then doesn’t he explicitly say that Kashmir does not belong to India. Doesn’t he mean that India in no way should interfare in their matters ? What sort of democracy/secularism is this ? Should we tolerate all this ? Also if he means that the land of Kashmir belongs to the entire India (which I believe is not at all what he meant), then why is all this hue and cry made of. Let the govt decide how the land should be used. Why is he so annoyed by the order of temporarily transfering the land to the Amarnath Shrine board.
Now take the case of Mehbooba Mufti. Last night on your TV channel she said that “Don’t loose the entire Kashmir for only 800 kanals of land “. What did she mean by that ? To whom will we loose Kashmir ? Did she mean that we will loose Kashmir to Pakistan ? If so then see how explicitly and blatantly she is threatening India. Isnt this rediculous ? Can’t India take any action against her ? Are we so weak ?
Need less to mention about the other seperatist groups. They are nothing but terrorists in disguise of polititians. Yasin Malik-one time dreaded terrorist who himself had accepted of killing so many people. Sayed Ali Shah Geelani-He is soo vocal in talking anti-India and pro-Pakistan.
All I can say is that we Indians have given these people unnecessory importance and now they are taking undue advantage of it.
Please please please treat them as normal Indians. Don’t show any courtesy to them. They are people for whom I have only one proverb in Hindi “YEH LOG JIS THALI MAIN KHATE HAIN USI MAIN CHED KARTE HAIN”.
Through your channel I urge the govt of India to take a tough stance against them. They should not be pampered. We have already paid a very heavy price for Kashmir. Now its time to give it a new thought.
As a closing remak I would like to mention that what ever is hapenning in Jammu is not a political crises. It a outrage of people from all walks of life that has come out. They just want egalitarian treatment of poeple of the entire state of J&K.
Also I would like to appeal to the entire Indian National Media as well as our dormant Indian Government that please please please try to read between the lines of the comments made by these treacherous politicians of People’s Democratic Party (PDP), National Conference (NC), Hurriat Conference and all the other parties of Kashmir region.
rohitp83
August 6, 2008 at 11:46 am
Thanks! Really funny. I wish i could spend my time on writing articles…just have no time for it.
John Davis
August 9, 2008 at 7:20 am
You guys are hillarious and the best part is that you actually do fight like cats and dogs!
It’s so fun seeing you all take pot shots at each other!
There we go “the secularism way.”
ZS
August 9, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Omar, who can’t even speak Kashmiri, talks about Kashmiriyat. Mr. Abdullah while you may not inherited the language and culture from your ancestors; you surely have inherited the hypocrisy and duplicity of a politician
Amit Raina
August 9, 2008 at 6:02 pm
hey guys.. what do u mean when u ask is India a muslim country… Muslims constitute more than 30 percent of Indian population.. Even if it was just 2 percent. u shouldnt be asking this question.. it aint a question of India being a muslim country or a hindu country.. its the question of being secular and democratic..
There are lakhs of hindus working in Middle East.. and if i speak in ur language.. its the Muslim countries… Should they all be kicked out??
U people dont know the reality.. u people just speak after watching news n listening to media.. See the reality guys n then discuss… mate the pilgrims were not killed by kashmiris. It was the terrorists… U know they were killed by bullets n bombs.. We dont carry them.. Anything that terrorists do is blamed on all kashmiris.. If all kashmiris wanted this, believe me there would be no yatra.. We have nothin against yatra or yatris.. We have always welcomed u and will always do it in future… But if something goes wrong somewhere becoz of bunch of crackheads, dont blame that on whole kashmir…
Aamir
August 10, 2008 at 1:18 am
This Omar or other muslims are big frauds & criminals ready to commit any crime in the name of their god
Madhu
August 10, 2008 at 3:11 am
solution iis kick back all Muslims from the country….in their place bring all sikhs & hindus to india from bangladesh & pakistan. they cant stay with us….better leave india…
mita
August 10, 2008 at 3:47 am
Who cares to whom “Barka dutt”’s oscar goes?? I think she’s just infatuated to Omer!!
Nishit Desai
August 10, 2008 at 3:57 am
Good post Pawan…Keep it up…
B Shantanu
August 10, 2008 at 8:50 am
hi
What the bull shit these politicians are doing sitting in a parliment. see the outer world.. just see palestian, israil how they will fight back for their community, peace of land… am not pointing or telling we from our side should have a war.
i think once for all we should have a war[As "lathon ka booth bathon se nahin manthe hai"] btw india and paki and should put a full stop for day to day crises.. who is caring for the people who dies daily …..
and politicians is not getting time to count their corrupted money which they r getting then hw they mind who is dieing
One question that always keeps me thinking … all these criminal things are done by so called muslims … and why our [inidan] muslims are keeping quite when such things happen. none of them are protesting for the cause … as this is their mother land.
But they have dirty mind to pull back the sania mirza for her dressing..
Guys we can solve problems only if we mingle with each other … and should find our own public solutions … nothing can happen from bull shit politicians .. Nor from any army , airforce. But TV channel may help us in building our own solutions.
I request people to come closure and get the problems solved, other wise die like this is not our life….
thanks for reading
Kailash singh
Kailash singh
August 11, 2008 at 5:15 am
This seems to be a place where the Jewish remainants (Kashmiri Pandits) in Asia are spitting venom and burning their arses instead of fingers. They left the valley under a plaaned strategy from Jagmohan who promised the bombing of the local muslims as soon as pandits fled. So they conspired with the most hated person in kashmir and now they are making all sorts of allegations for the exodus. besides they have reaped the benefits of migration , be it professional college seats in India , or capturing the local markets like in JAmmu all on the basis of their makari,. pandits are the worst parasites and they suck any ones blood whether their benefactor of adversary. the only good thing is that in next twenty to 50 years the half jewish race will be extinct.
ahmed faraz
August 11, 2008 at 7:54 am
For ahmed faraz… looking at the way you guys are are faring internationally, you’ll cop it in 10
)
rajeev
August 11, 2008 at 10:04 pm
hello brothers, first of all lets agree that we hindus are a tolerant lot who are silently seeing the astrocicities of the invaders of our land .these people alwys justify their actions and retaliations which will satisy their religious sentiments and egos. but the same people tend to forget the pain faced by other faiths.kashmiri pandits thrown out of the valley ,hindu temples vandalised and destroyed,destruction of hindu temples and rebuilding mosques ,fighting the jews ,supporting the cause of islam through unfair means and so on.its a proven fact that almost 80% of the worlds terrosists and illegal acts are considered and done by this religion.in india people like geelanis,maliks,muftis,abdullahs do and say what they like and go scott free.was this possible in pakistan who is a muslim dominated country and some non muslims speaking and reacting the same. no never.but this traitors roam scott free,even to the extent of media glorifying them,media acting as their uncalled agent ,showcasing anti national antihindu feelins.
we hindus are criticised for whatever we do and labelled as communal whereas the antics of this muslims are in the light of upbringing their religion.what a hogwash
what does some barkhas oscar to abdullahs hold any importance.als she doesnt knows the real picture or is that she is smitten by that abdullah. we hindus are at mercy of these politicians who are just appeasing the muslims
how come a lalu,mullah mullayam,mulla bhat talk abt revoking the ban on simi and banning the national outfits like rss vhp shiv sena and durgavahini.
we hindus have to unite ourselves and show the strenghts that even we can bring and demonstrate the inner will .lets throw out all the shame ,cowardness,leniency,tolerance and softness and bring a vital mental and structured change showcasing our might
in the service of of mother india
jai hind
omosho10@rediffmail.com
kumar
August 12, 2008 at 1:57 am
first time i read a very good post, if don’t mind, in my opinion at this stage Jammu must be Separated from Kasmire perhaps it will be a good soluation.
ashoke mehta
August 12, 2008 at 9:37 am
MR AHMED FARAZ…. let me make it clear to u that we are not the parasites….instead of commenting on somebody u should see ur face in mirror… and then talk about someone else…from last 60 years all u kashmiri muslims are nothing but a black spot in india.. it is well said by someone that “jis thali main khate ho , usi main ched karte ho” and this applies to all of u ……the govt of india have given u everyything still u say “hum kya chahte aazadi”and raise anti- india slogans and pro- pakistani…
before commenting on jagmohans policies… just look at the past what u guys did with hindus there…. we were in minority(5 or 10% of the total population)and when u militants kileed innocent hindus .. they were helpless and they were left with 1 option that is to leave there native place…..
and why the hell are u saying us jewish rem. ..first u talk about ur origin U KNOW U ALL HAVE ARE CONVERTEES….and that too of kashmiri hindus and u can ak this from any 1…. so ” JINKE GHAR SHEESHE KE HOTE HAIN WOH DOOSRON KE GHAR PE PATTHER NAHI MARTE”"
and what u said about benifits of migration … just look at the condition of migrant at camps…. seriously it is the worst… and rest u r saying about getting admissions……. we kps get only admissions but u guys eeven copy during exams…. u guys get admissions in prof coll not because u have qualified but because of cheating………………….
i ned not go into detail this was my answer to mr faraz…
Neha bhat
August 13, 2008 at 4:28 am
MR AHMED FARAZ…. let me make it clear to u that we are not the parasites….instead of commenting on somebody u should see ur face in mirror… and then talk about someone else…from last 60 years all u kashmiri muslims are nothing but a black spot in india.. it is well said by someone that “jis thali main khate ho , usi main ched karte ho” and this applies to all of u ……the govt of india have given u everyything still u say “hum kya chahte aazadi”and raise anti- india slogans and pro- pakistani…
before commenting on jagmohans policies… just look at the past what u guys did with hindus there…. we were in minority(5 or 10% of the total population)and when u militants kileed innocent hindus .. they were helpless and they were left with 1 option that is to leave there native place…..
and why the hell are u saying us jewish rem. ..first u talk about ur origin U KNOW U ALL HAVE ARE CONVERTEES….and that too of kashmiri hindus and u can ak this from any 1…. so ” JINKE GHAR SHEESHE KE HOTE HAIN WOH DOOSRON KE GHAR PE PATTHER NAHI MARTE”"
and what u said about benifits of migration … just look at the condition of migrant at camps…. seriously it is the worst… and rest u r saying about getting admissions……. we kps get only admissions but u guys eeven copy during exams…. u guys get admissions in prof coll not because u have qualified but because of cheating………………….
I ned not go into detail this was my answer to mr faraz………..
Neha bhat
August 13, 2008 at 4:29 am
This is my reply to Both Mr. AHMED FARAZ AND NEHA BHAT:
I strongly criticise what Ahmed has said about KPS. Being a Muslim I am of the opinion that it was not due to any Jagmohan’s Policy or the like but it was the immediarte necessity of the minorities which forced tham to live there native place and move to such place which was totally unknown to them. It is shameful to we people that we couldnt help our friends, our brother KPS who lived with us like our reals, and let them fled out of Kashmir.
People like FARAZ are antisocial social elements of our society and it’s only becoz of such people who have such kind of thiking and posts such comment that the communal harmony is being continously targetted.
Aslam Parvez
August 13, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Is it new……. all written in detail on this web site. u will find solution for problem
http://www.faithfreedom.org
Hindus visit this site if u wanna know real reason and browse the pages.
to Muslims u need real courage to look through pages because it is truth…
neha bhat God bless u and all others….
In one sentense fate of muslims after we were forced out of kashmir is:
anim soi vavim soi lagim soi panasi……. true for terrorism/gun culture and Islam….
Kuldeep Trisal
Kuldeep Trisal
August 14, 2008 at 3:57 am
thanks mr trisal and mr aslam ….for supporting my comments…
actually i would have never written like this , but after reading mr ahmed faraz’s COMMUNAL VIEWS.. i couldn’t stop my self…
neha
August 14, 2008 at 2:43 pm
For Mr. Ahmed Faraz…
I totally agree with Neha Bhat. You are commenting on Jagmohan’s policies…I think either you are an illiterate, unknown from the facts or trying to become so. Leave about his policies..what are your policies ..take all the help, facilities from Indian govt. & then say we are “Pakistanis”,”hum kya chahte azadi”..the muslims like you are real parasites. You said Kps have left the valley under planned strategy…Can you leave your home, everything that belongs to you & live happily while struggling for survival. Do you know how many children have become orphans, how many women became widows, how many mothers lost their sons,
I think either you are not human or have no brains. If muslims like you are so much fascinated by Pakistan. Why don’t you all leave India & go there? So that the people here can live peacefully.
Jewish rem….you are saying this for us.. who the hell are you? do you have ur identity?
you are all convertees & that too of Kashhmiri Hindus..Go & check your family history..I am sure you will not be able to face yourself in the mirror next time.
If you cannot be honest to your country, atleast try to be honest to yourself. So go & check your history.
An Indian & a Kashmiri
August 27, 2008 at 8:53 am
Dont say that these are Convertees from Hindu Pandits,these are the selfish & weak people who can change religion any time,If Bush captures kashmir,all of them will become Christians.
Deepak Shah ,Pune
August 27, 2008 at 12:17 pm
PUNE,the new breeding ground for these mosquitoes
Do you know that at Katraj Pune,Kashmiri Muslims have set up Srahad School, hostel, college,A day will come when it will become a sleeper cell for Militants
Deepak Shah ,Pune
August 27, 2008 at 12:40 pm
to all the KM’s who want partition, this is a comment published in times of india by a user.
“You are asking a partition based on religion. Third option is widely acceptable. I am not sure what do you meant by “It will cause death and destruction”. Are you threatening 100 crores of people which includes Hindus,Muslims,Christians,Sikh,Jain,Buddhist etc etc… and make their life hell? Too bad and communal buddy…Not good for the nation and for the Islam… And about POK, I dont think pakistanis will allow POK to be independent. I dont see any attempts for that in the other side. No agitation or protest at all. So, what does that mean? This happens in India because you can do whatever you want in a democracy??? See this article below from a columnist. No offense intended, but just a fact:: A Kashmiri Muslim student came to see me last week and it was not long before our conversation turned to the current azadi wave in the valley. He did not think that an independent Kashmir was viable, and its only choice was either to be with India or with Pakistan. After a pause he asked guilelessly, why was India a democracy and Pakistan an autocracy? This set me thinking. I told him that Pakistan was more the norm – Third World countries do not generally become stable democracies. India is an exception. India’s democracy and Pakistan’s autocracy have deep roots in history. India’s nationalist movement was older and more widespread. Millions of ordinary Indians were drawn in by Mahatma Gandhi. Muslim nationalism emerged later and did not become a mass movement – Jinnah was more comfortable in the drawing room rather than the ‘dusty road’. While Indians prepared for democracy over three generations, Pakistanis-to-be got the itch only a couple of years before independence. After independence, Pakistan’s politicians performed abysmally. The Muslim League Party disintegrated; there were nine governments in 10 years and the army under Ayub Khan seized power in 1958. Jinnah’s great error was to impose Urdu as the national language when only 8% of Pakistanis spoke Urdu and 55% spoke Bengali. Thus, he sowed the seeds of Bangladesh. Sri Lanka made the same tragic mistake. India did not succumb to this anti-democratic temptation by imposing Hindi. This is how India gave space for sub-identities to flourish, allowed the rise of peoples’ leaders from linguistic states, and deepened democracy. Although his slogan in the 1945-46 elections in undivided India was ‘Islam is in danger’, Jinnah wanted to build a modern nation. Even though General Zia-ul-Haq reinforced theological priority, i do not believe Islam prevents Pakistan from being democratic. The rise of Islamism does tear the ordinary Pakistani’s loyalty between the brotherhood and the state, but the maulvi is not Pakistan’s natural leader as in Iran. The chief obstacle to democracy is the army. Hence, i am relieved that Musharraf is gone. It does create a vacuum that might be filled by extremists, but in the longer term the best thing for India is to have a democratic Pakistan. For a brief moment in the mid-1970s the two nations seemed to converge. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto began to steer Pakistan towards genuine democracy while Indira Gandhi took India on the path of dictatorship. The paths diverged after 1977 as Mrs Gandhi called an election and Bhutto was executed by Zia in 1979. India returned to the path of democracy, whose binding glue is the liberal notion that all Indians are equal citizens before the law, owing loyalty to the Constitution. This is a British legacy. Before that we were a collection of communities and kingdoms. Although we still feel loyal to our caste or community, we are different from the tragic Pakistanis whose land has been hijacked by the military. Once there is military rule you get a state within a state. You are powerless to stop your secret service from creating monsters like the Taliban and before you know it your country has become the world’s top university for terrorists. I then turned to my young Kashmiri friend. He wished more Kashmiris could come and see India’s vibrant democracy, its confident economy and the rise of the low-born. “There is a simple choice before all Kashmiris,” he said. “If you want to be a citizen of a modern democracy with unparalleled opportunities, you will choose self-assured India. If you believe that Islam is in danger and you want the army’s protection, you will choose tragic Pakistan.”
bye………..till next
venkat
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