Kashmiri Pandits hand over memorandum to Ban Ki-Moon at United Nations Office in New York

On September 26th, 2008 scores of Kashmiri Hindus demonstarted outside the United Nations Office in New York [USA].
Some of the demands of Kashmiri Pandits to the UN were :
- Declare Kashmiri Hindu community as Internally Displaced People (IDP). The Human Rights Working Group on Minorities in Geneva has since recognized Kashmiri Hindus, formally, as a Reverse Minority. The use of the insulting term ‘Migrants’ for this forcibly exiled community may be removed from all records and communications relating to us hence forth.
- Direct the Government of India to set up a ‘Commission of Enquiry’ to establish the causes that led to the selective and targeted killings of Kashmiri Hindus and their subsequent forced exile, and appropriate the responsibility and punish the guilty.
- Direct the Government of India to ensure adequate protection to the residual Kashmiri Hindu population currently living in the Kashmir valley.
- Direct the Government of India to restore Kashmiri Hindus’ political and economic rights that would give them equal status rather than a second class citizenship in their native land of Kashmir. Share of Kashmiri Hindu jobs in government bureaucracy, placement in state supported professional educational institutes and the representation in the state assembly has steadily diminished to virtually nothing in the last two decades.
- Grant funds to Kashmiri Hindus for the preservation and documentation of relics of Kashmiri Hindu heritage and culture.
- Direct the Government of India to hand over the management of Kashmiri Hindu religious shrines, icons and cultural centers to Kashmiri Hindu leadership.
It is further requested that the United Nations Human Rights Commission may put on record these Human Rights Violations by Pakistan and its agents, and Pakistan be declared a terrorist state.
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Excellent move by KP’s against ISLAMIC Terrorism.
Peace
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September 29, 2008 at 4:28 am
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David
September 29, 2008 at 5:07 am
This is a great move …
KP’s should keep up the momentum and create world awareness to this issue …
Next step should be to go to Amnesty and other “HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS” ….
i hope KP’s will keep on fighting … All Indians are with them for their fight ….
ISLAMIC TERRORISM IS THE REASON FOR ALL THE ILLS OF WORLD …
KILL ISLAMIC TERRORISM …
kc
September 29, 2008 at 8:10 am
I wonder what do these pandits think. They will ask UN to punish Kashmiri muslims and sametime wish to come back to the valley to live along side muslims.
Idiots think that India can create a homeland for them inside the valley. They couldnt give 40 acres of land to shrine board and these pandits dream to have half of kashmir as homeland surrounded by kashmiri muslims.How long can indian forces protect them there…IDIOTS
ZH
September 29, 2008 at 8:30 am
best of wishes to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
our mind and body is with you honourable people.
venkat
venkat
September 29, 2008 at 8:38 am
self denial attitude is already visible here …
we got the land … they just want to close eyes as usual and deny the truth …
kc
September 29, 2008 at 9:01 am
KC has got the land in dreams….
But Lila Sharan Gupta got 2.5 crores of Indian Currency….that is true
ZH
September 29, 2008 at 9:08 am
THIS IS WRITEEN BY EDITOR …
Direct the Government of India to set up a ‘Commission of Enquiry’ to establish the causes that led to the selective and targeted killings of Kashmiri Hindus and their subsequent forced exile, and appropriate the responsibility and punish the guilty.
OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS ANSWER IT THIS WAY..
ZH
29 Sep 08 at 8:30 am
I wonder what do these pandits think. They will ask UN to punish Kashmiri muslims and sametime wish to come back to the valley to live along side muslims.
MY DEAR MUSLIM BROTHERS U CAN C THAT KZ IS ADMITTING THE FACT THT THEY ARE KILLERS
pamposh
September 29, 2008 at 9:39 am
self denial mode is back again …
kc
September 29, 2008 at 10:01 am
It is really a great move to take our agitation for homeland,these peoples know the truth that KP’s are biggest hurdle for kashmir issues insane peoples can talk anything because they have become educated slaves inthe hand of pakistani ISI……….
I wish them all good luck for hell and morever they have become beggers in the hands of indians. How much they will sell apples,cherry,apricot,pear,etc and dry fruit to muzfarabad are they ready to buy it were the doller price is rs 82.50 are they going to afford……..lets see and look to the faces of PDP and Hurriyat after one month result will come lets us watch and wait………..
http://www.kashmirihindu.wordpress.com
KP
KP
September 29, 2008 at 3:19 pm
It’s good to see these demonstrations. These can be treated as good starting point. But the ground realities won’t change until Pandit prepare themselves to give or take (e.g., Parliament attack) ultimate sacrifice. You have to do something big to force the deaf Govt ears listen.
The least citizens living far away can do is raise their kids as Lions and not sheep. Pray for your off springs successful life and preach them what our Dharma is and what injustice their parents bore.
Mahendra
September 29, 2008 at 7:30 pm
well mahendra ..i think we should leave the attacks to miltants.they can do it in a better way..
we people don’t believe in all this..as per me unity is strength…we have to organise ourselves.. thts wht i feel…
pamposh
September 30, 2008 at 3:26 am
@mahendra
do u really think thats the way to go!!!
u want those kids to be grown as the victim KP
they gonna be bred as every other indian-an educated and learned class and regarding KP return to kashmir
its just that one day an aggressive man comes to power in new delhi and removes art 370 floodgates will open
tarun
September 30, 2008 at 3:40 am
thre is one truth which even history cant deny.
the hindus hav been the most victimized community from the islamic terrorism and india the most victimized state(official figures state it is second after iraq)
its not only the KP’s who need to demonstrate but the whole india needs to wake up or water will cross our necks and we wont be able to repent too.
tarun
September 30, 2008 at 3:55 am
An Open Letter to the Prime Minister of India
Monday 15 September 2008, by Shabnam Hashmi
September 15, 2008
New Delhi
Dear Dr. Manmohan Singh,
The blasts in Delhi (September 12, 2008) are another in the series of tragic blasts in which scores of people have been killed. We strongly condemn the blasts and demand a proper, unbiased investigation into the same. We demand that the guilty be punished. At the same time it seems that our investigating agencies are ignoring some thing very crucial in the matters of investigating the acts of terror.
The acts of terror have been occurring and Home Ministry is watching helplessly. While the current investigation is totally focused around SIMI, many an alleged culprits have been put behind the bars, despite which now some unknown entity Indian Mujahideen seems to have been projected as being responsible for the current ones. At the same time another stark truth is being deliberately sidelined and undermined. And that relates to the blasts done by Bajrang Dal and Hindu Jagran Samiti. We fail to understand as to why the investigation authorities are turning a blind eye to some of the well established facts.
1. In a serious case of blasts in Nanded in April 2006 two Bajarang Dal workers died when making bombs. Similar incidents of bomb blasts were witnessed in many places around that time, Parabhani, Jalna and Aurangabad in Maharashtra. Most of these were in front of the mosques. The Nanded investigation ’leads’ were not followed. On the contrary the investigation in that direction was not pursued at all. The attitude of police in this investigation has been totally lax. Social activists made the complaint about this to Human Rights commission. The commission summoned the Superintendent of police, Nanded, in its hearing held on 17th June. The SP failed to turn up for hearing! There seems to be a deliberate cover up of this important finding of Maharashtra Anti terrorist Squad. ATS did investigate the links of the dead with Bajrang Dal, an RSS affiliate. At the same time the injured were visited in the hospital by the top brass of local BJP and associates. Local BJP MP told the police not to harass those related to the culprits in the wake of the Bajrang Dal involvement in the bomb making. In Nanded, ATS also found fake moustache and pajama kurta, the idea being that the culprits will dress like a Muslim while doing these black deeds.
2. A bomb blast took place at the RSS office at Tenkasi, in the Tirunelveli District of Tamil Nadu on January 24. After a thorough investigation, the Tamilnadu Police had arrested 7 persons belonging to Sangh Parivar outfits. They had confessed that they indulged in this terror act to instigate the local Hindu population against the Muslims.
On further investigation, the Tamilnadu Police arrested Siva Alias Sivanandam, who is the General Secretary of Hindu Munnani at Kadayanallur, a neighbouring town of Tenkasi. Formed in 1980, Hindu Munnani is a frontal organisation of Sangh Parivar operating in Tamilnadu.
Siva, who has earlier worked in quarries in the neighboring state of Kerala had supplied the ammonium nitrate and other raw materials for preparing the bombs.
3. The bombs which exploded in Gadkari Rangayatan on 4th June 2008 injured seven people. Again Maharashtra Anti Terrorist Squad succeeded in nabbing the culprits. The culprits were part of Hindu Janjagaran Samiti (HJS), an outfit of Sanatana Ashram in Panvel. These culprits were also involved in other blasts, in Vashi, Panvel and Ratnagiri. We have not heard anything about the further tracing of this very important lead.
4. On 24th August, in Kanpur two Bajrang Dal workers died while making bombs. Rajiv alias Piyush Mishra and Bhupinder Singh were killed while making crude bombs on Sunday afternoon.
On 25th August, Monday, police recovered some crude hand grenades, lead oxide, red lead, potassium nitrate, bomb pins, timers and batteries from the spot, inside a hostel in Kalyanpur area of Kanpur, about 80 km from Lucknow. No further investigation, why?
Every time there is a bomb blast immediately the agencies and the media declare that it is done by some Muslim organization without any proof. Hundreds of innocent young boys are picked up, what follows are illegal detentions, torture, arrests, harassment of families, forcing the families and victims to sign blank papers. For years these helpless victims are tortured in jails, denied legal aid, even lawyers who try and fight their cases are attacked openly in courts. Their images tarnished for life time. If they are lucky they get let off after years as neither the agencies or the police have any proof against them. The cacophony of stricter laws rises so that a police can extract a confession by third degree torture and present that as evidence. Through this systematic vilification campaign the process of demonization of minorities continued unabated.
If we look at the timing of the terror attacks it is very clear that one and only one political outfit is gaining from it and that is Sangh. With their eyes on the central government their agenda of polarizing the voter is going ahead successfully.
On the other hand there are constant attacks on minorities on one pretext or another. Orissa thousands of Christians have been attacked, rendered homeless, their homes ransacked and looted and burnt down, churches attacked and even orphanages are not left alone.
Karnataka a similar picture is emerging. We have personally briefed very senior people in the government and the Congress party about the Karnataka situation and that it might explode but nothing was done and we have seen what has happened yesterday.
While we write to you now, the police are firing at Muslims in Yakutpura in Vadodara. Yesterday during the Ganpati procession a local dargah was broken down and shops of Muslims looted and ransacked. Already one boy has died and many are injured.
Last few days the only Muslim village Nandepeda in the Dangs, Gujarat has been attacked, ransacked. Villagers have been beaten up brutally including women and children. All men have fled to the jungles. The police not only took away all the goods but before going they poured kerosene into the eatable good so that they could not eat anything too. A proposed VHP rally today was stopped after spending 4 hours on the phone and pressuring various police departments.
UPA had formed the National Integration Council under tremendous pressure. The first agenda papers which were prepared, if you remember, were highly communal and objectionable. A number of us had raised it during the meeting and the Home Minister had replied’ treat them as scrap’ in your presence. Probably the Home Minister realized that people like us were too uncomfortable to have in the NIC, who would raise these questions. The NIC was never convened again. It was supposed to meet every six months.
The country unfortunately has been given on a platter to the Sangh and the government looks helplessly in providing security to ordinary citizens whether they are victims of terror attacks or victims of the constant attacks by the Sangh Parivar’s various outfits.
We hope you will intervene and question why are such clear cases of involvement of RSS affiliates in terror attacks being ignored. It seems the investigating authorities deliberately want to cover up the role of RSS affiliates in these acts of terror. Can the real truth behind the dastardly acts come out without properly investigating these incidents, where the culprits’ involvement is very clear? We urge upon you to instruct the investigating authorities to pursue the investigation in an unbiased, honest and professional manner. The life of innocent citizens is at stake and such irresponsible cover will definitely prevent the real truth from coming out. For the sake of fairness, honesty and the values of our constitution, we need to pursue these cases in their logical direction.
Can we look forward to you, Mr. Prime Minister to make your Government to rise above partisan attitude and unravel the truth behind the blasts which are rocking the country in a painful way?
Sincerely
Shabnam Hashmi, Member, National Integration Counci
Ram Puniyani, Social Activist, and writer
david4ever
September 30, 2008 at 5:31 am
With the emergence of Hindutva fascist forces at the centre and their global alliance with neo cons and zionists, our poor nation witnessed sharp increase in the number of conflicts. The profiteers of global arms and security equipment trade established plenty of propogonda machines in India, which sweet named as conflict research institutes. In fact, India’s terror mafia is a complex structure which work beyond party politics. It includes right wing media houses, well paid think tanks, corrupt politicians, industrial bigwigs, high profile security officials, intelligence wing officers, and hindutva lobbying groups. Anytime, they can manipulate explosions in areas of tribals, dalits or minorities. The real culprits will be rescued from punishment as the investigation is more focused on news value of the ‘Terror’. Every terror attempts help the security and arms trade industry than its victims. It ends up in more arms trade and creation of draconian laws. The creation of ‘National Security Advisor of India’ was a pre planned strategy by global arms industry. By creating such a portfolio, Hindutva zealots hacked democratic controle over Indias national security. The ministers became remotely controlled robots in the hands of corrupt security apparatus. According to Hindutva, security of borders is more important than its citizens. Incidentally India has bought military hardware and software from Israel worth over $7 billion since the 1991 Kargil conflict. The Defence Offset Facilitation Agency estimating the expenditure on the sector at USD 100 billion for next five years. Sooner or later, 25,000 strong democratic institutions in India will be collapsed and the country will be transformed to a limited democracy under the rule of corrupted security regime like Turkey or Israel.
“Bad ideas flourish because they are in the interest of powerful groups” — Paul Krugman
Recently I had the privilege to hear Mr. Ajit Sahi, the Editor-at-large of Tehelka, speak on the ‘Myth Of Terrorist Organisations—-SIMI fictions’.
His painstakingly collected and carefully analyzed information speaks of scores of innocent Indian Muslims languishing in the countries’ prisons on false police accusations. He feels that it is a premeditated government campaign to implicate and harass Muslim youth and demonise the Muslim community—-all in the name of curbing terrorist activities. His findings indicate that in not a single case has it so far been conclusive that SIMI ( students’ Islamic movement of India ) activists were involved in terrorist offences. Police have killed scores of innocent persons during the last several years, wrongly branding them as terrorists, whereas the the real culprits remain untouched. All this has helped to reinforce hatred against the Muslims who no longer feel safe in the country.
However they need not despair, as they are not alone in their fear and mistrust. It is the common ,hapless person on the street who is being hounded by the powers-that-be irrespective of her/his caste, creed or religion. How else do we explain the thrashing of the UPites and Biharis in Mumbai by the Shiv Sena and the Nav Nirman Sena in the name of purging Maharashtrian territory,( thus usurping the right of an Indian citizen to work in any part of the country), unleashing a wave of violence and hatred amongst members of the same religion.
Or the vandalism by the saffron brigade during a recent painting exhibition of artist Manjit Singh in New Delhi . They not only smashed his paintings but manhandled him too, as they thought his works of art to be against Hindu culture.
Or the barbaric burning to death of Rajni Majhi—a twenty year old Hindu girl in Orissa—whose only fault was that she was living in an orphanage run by Christian missionaries.
Or the police firings on the poor farmers who dared to protest against the acquisition of their farmlands at ridiculously low prices by the Government in the name of economic development.
Whether it is the heinous bomb blasts, or attacks on a particular minority community/ caste, or illegal coercion of farmers; the perpetrator is always the more powerful and the victim is the helpless poor. The new world order seems to have fuelled our brutal passion to tread upon the down trodden and to oppress the weak. It could be the State/executive against the minorities; the economically powerful industrialists against the poor farmers; the police excesses on the innocents. Everywhere it is the same blatant signature tune that I am racially/socially/economically superior to you.
A few months ago the son of my sister’s domestic help was rounded by the police on a false complaint of theft, with no evidence whatsoever. When she approached a senior police officer, the charges against him were withdrawn, but his poor mother had to shell out a thousand rupees for his release. On top of it a police constable pestered him to name someone else for some other uncommitted crime, just to add numbers to the police record list. Even after his release, the boy and his mother are living in constant fear of the police. This is just one of the several cases which must be happening every day and we seem to have become immune to these indignities as long as they do not affect us directly.
Isn’t the police terrorizing the common public with impunity and getting away with it?
Aren’t the Bajrang Dal/ Shivsainiks/ political parties terrorizing the law abiding citizens and zealous missionaries and social activists( like Binayak Sen) for their narrow parochial gains?
Isn’t the State machinery terrorizing us by usurping the fundamental rights of the common person by forcibly taking away his/her land and siphoning off funds earmarked for flood/ drought/ riot victims?
Isn’t our army, deemed to be the custodians of law and order in troubled areas, violating the dignity of women and committing excesses against human rights?
How often have seen traffic rules being broken with impunity and no action taken against the culprits; cases of road rage resulting in deaths;women being subjugated and treated like dirt ( that is if they are allowed to be born) for bringing insufficient dowry/ not producing a male child / daring to exercise their choices.
All these are acts of terrorism unleashed on the weak and powerless by the strong and mighty. It is not just the Muslims, but about anyone and everyone without a political/ economic clout who are living in constant fear of the unbridled and brute force of the executive/ police/ judiciary. It is rare to find an influential person becoming a victim of any act of terrorism.
It is time for the oppressed to stand up in solidarity against all forms of terrorism, irrespective of their faith and affiliations.
The stupid (wo)man on the street ,who has been dumped by all, must stand up in non violent resistance and abide by the truth, ( just like the farmers of Jharkhand and villages adjoining New Delhi ).
We may be grateful to have survived bomb attacks but our spirit is dying and needs to be resurrected.
Shobha Shukla
The author teaches Physics at India’s Loreto Convent and has been writing extensively in English and Hindi media. She serves as Editor of Citizen News Service (CNS).
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children… This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.” — Former U.S. President, Dwight D. Eisenhower, in a speech on April 16, 1953
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david4ever
September 30, 2008 at 5:32 am
Some Questions about the Counter-Terror Operation at Jamia Nagar, New Delhi
Saturday 20 September 2008, by Shabnam Hashmi
A team comprising activists, academicians and journalists visited the site of the police operation against alleged terrorists staying in an apartment in Jamia Nagar in the afternoon of 20.09.2008 (Saturday). Two alleged terrorists Atif and Sajid, along with Mohan Chand Sharma, an inspector of the Delhi Police’s Special Cell died in the operation while a third alleged terrorist was arrested.
On the basis of our interactions with the local residents, eye witnesses and the reports which have appeared in the media, we would like to pose the following questions:
1) It has been widely reported (and not refuted by the Police) that in early August this year Atif, who is described by the Delhi Police as the mastermind behind the recent terrorist bombings in Jaipur, Ahmedabad and Delhi, underwent a police verification exercise along with his four roommates in order to rent the apartment they were staying in Jamia Nagar. All the five youth living in the apartment submitted to the Delhi police their personal details, including permanent address, driving license details, address of the house they previously stayed in, all of which were found to be accurate.
Is it conceivable that the alleged kingpin behind the terrorist Indian Mujahideen outfit would have wanted to undergo a police verification- for whatever purpose- just a week after the Ahmedabad blasts and a month before the bombings in Delhi?
2) The four-storeyed house L-18 in Jamia Nagar, where the alleged terrorists were staying, has only one access point, through the stair case, which is covered by an iron grill. It is impossible to leave the house except from the staircase. By all reports, the staircase was taken over by the Special Cell and/ or other agencies during the counter-terror operation. The house, indeed the entire block, was cordoned off at the time of the operation.
How then was it then possible, as claimed by the police, for two alleged terrorists to escape the premises during the police operation?
3) The media has quoted ’police sources’ as having informed them that the Special Cell was fully aware about the presence of dreaded terrorists, involved in the bombings in Jaipur, Ahmedabad and Delhi, staying in the apartment that was raided.
Why was the late Inspector Mohan Chand Sharma, a veteran of dozens of encounter operations, the only officer in the operation not wearing a bullet proof vest? Was this due to over-confidence or is there something else to his mysterious death during the operation? Will the forensic report of the bullets that killed Inspector Sharma be made public?
4) There are reports that towards the end of the counter-terror operation, some policemen climbed on the roof of L-18 and fired several rounds in the air. Other policemen were seen breaking windows and even throwing flower pots to the ground from flats adjacent or opposite to L-18
Why was the police firing in the air and why did it indulge in destruction of property around L-18 after the encounter?
5) The police officials claim that an AK-47 and pistols were recovered from L-18.
What was the weapon that killed Inspector Sharma? Was the AK-47 used at all and by whom? Going by some reports that have appeared (see ’Times of India’, 20.09.08), the AK-47s have been used by the police only. Is it not strange that alleged terrorists did not use a more deadly and sophisticated weapon like the AK-47, which they purportedly possessed, preferring to use pistols?
We feel that there are far too many loose ends in the current story of the police encounter at L-18 in Jamia Nagar. We demand that a fair, impartial and independent probe into the incident be initiated at the earliest to answer the above questions as also any other ones that arise from the contradictions of the case.
Signed/- Shabnam Hashmi, Satya Sivaraman, Manisha Sethi, Tanweer Fazal, Arshad Alam, Pallavi Deka
david4ever
September 30, 2008 at 5:36 am
David — wish u tried to tie loose ends of ISLAM with the same enthusiasm — then world would have been peaceful place — there are far more loose ends in your Islamic teachings than in our army or police — Not just indai but whole world is understanding Islamic terrorism and how Muslims support it openly as well as behind closed doors…. biggest example is Kashmir and we pandits are the witness to it — please write to PM also about Bitta Karatay who killed innocent hindus — and the Govt decided to give deaf ears to us hindus — but they listen better to the pro-terrorist Islam — Always wondered why —- I am sure many will reply to ur open letter — it would be better if u mailed to PM rather than dump it in comments here —
Is this BLOG that popular THAT PM VISITS HERE???
have fun
love and peace
Anil
KOUL ANIL
September 30, 2008 at 6:01 am
A comment in times of india wesite,
Bobby, London, England, says: Muslims are blaming others for the failure of the Muslim community to be tough on terrorists. What they forget is in each of these instances who started the conflicts? Muslims start the conflict and then when faced with the wrath of the victims who are not Muslim, they cry foul. Do they expect non-Muslims to tolerate their relatives being killed and sit quietly? Times have changed Hindus will fight back now, we will not be doormats. If Muslims want to live in peace they need to weed out the terrorist element in their own community. Stop blaming others for your problems. This terrorist element is also very present here in England and through out Europe. The basic problem I have seen with the Muslim community is most of them have no respect for people of other faiths. They feel they are superior to others and want to convert others. They need to learn respect for other religions. Muslims are discriminated in India? Please they have it good in India, look at Bollywood, look at Wipro(Muslim owner) look at the Kalam, president of India. Do you think this is possible in Pakistan or Bangladesh for a non-Muslim? A secular country means everyone is free to practice their religion, but that does NOT mean special privileges. In India Muslims are given privileges such as Haj subsidy and Christians Israel subsidy which is an insult to the Hindu community, which gets nothing though they make up over 85% of the tax base. I say no government subsidies for any religion.
[30 Sep, 2008 0248hrs IST]
venkat
source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/msid-3542157,curpg-2.cms
venkat
September 30, 2008 at 8:08 am
Pomposh – I believe most Pandits are already united. Everyone says, “Aap aage chalo, hum aap ke saath hai” What’s next?
Tarun – That one aggressive man must be one of us or our off spring. There is no point in relying on others. Our typical mentality is, “It’s your house on fire and not mine”
david4ever – 1950s – India’s hindu population was 82%, today it’s less then 70%; Pak non-muslim population was about 35%, today it’s about 1%; B’desh’s Hindu population was 30+%, today it around 7%. Revert to 1950s demographics and everything will be peaceful. India is the only Hindu land in the world, please let it be a Hindu nation.
Mahendra
September 30, 2008 at 1:02 pm
SO MR MAHENDRA ..WT ARE UR PLANS …
IF I M WRONG ..WT IS UR THINKING ..
AS PER ME WHT I SAID IS RT
I DON’T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING LIKE U SAID ..
WE CAN MANAGE AND WE WILL GET OUR RIGHTS BY PEACE FUL METHODS ..ITS NOT THAT WE R AFRAID ..ITS BECAUSE WE DON’T BELIEVE IN KILLINGS..
SO SPREAD THIS KIND OF POSTS AMONG MUSLIMS ..THEY WILL LIKE T ..
AND OUR TYPICAL MENTALITY IS NOT LIKE THIS ….. I THINK U FORGOT TO MENTION ABOUT THOSE SOLDIERS WHO DIE FOR OTHERS ..
pamposh
September 30, 2008 at 2:06 pm
God insured for $600,000 in India
September 3, 2008 by CyberGandhi
M. Lakshman, AP)
A broken idol of elephant-headed Hindu God Ganesh lies on the sea coast after its immersion, on the eighth day of the ten-day Ganesh festival in Chennai (formerly Madras), India, Sunday, Sept. 3, 2006. (Foto: M. Lakshman, AP)
MUMBAI: For the first time in its 75-year history, Mumbai’s popular Ganesh idol known as Lalbaugcha Raja and its massive marquee have been insured for a whopping Rs.26.5 million (nearly $600,000).
Another insurance policy of Rs.10 million has been taken for the 1.5 million devotees likely to visit the venue at Parel in central Mumbai during the 10-day long Ganesh Chaturthi festival.
The festival, marking the birth of elephant-headed Hindu god Ganesh, started Wednesday.
Ganesh idols are worshipped for 10 days and on the 11th, the statues are taken through the streets in processions accompanied with dancing, singing and fanfare to be immersed in sea, symbolising a ritual see-off of the god.
According to Sunil Joshi, president of the Lalbaugcha Raja organisers, the insurance cover has been taken in view of security considerations for the devotees – comprising people from all over the state, foreign tourists, VVIPs, top industrialists and Bollywood personalities.
“We have taken out two separate insurance policies from the private company, Bajaj Alliance, for which we have already paid a premium of Rs.140,000,” Joshi said.
The Ganesh pandal – as the marquees are known, its decorations and lighting have been erected over the past two months at a cost of nearly Rs.26.5 million. In case of any mishap, this will be fully covered by the insurance company as per its usual terms and conditions.
Similarly, the second component of Rs.10.1 million will provide cover to the huge crowds of devotees in case of any kind of accident.
Although Joshi declined to comment on the reasons for this unprecedented decision, terrorist activities in neighbouring states like Gujarat and Karnataka could have prompted the organisers to go in for insurance.
Mumbai’s most-awaited idol of Lord Ganesh – the 12-ft-tall Lalbaugcha Raja – arrived Sunday at its traditional venue in Parel.
The organisers – Lalbaugcha Raja Sarvajanik Ganeshotsav Mandal (LRSGM) – made a special concession for the media on the occasion of the idol’s platinum jubilee, giving them a preview.
Established in 1934, though LRSGM is not among the oldest in the city, it has been growing in popularity over the years.
Devotees like Pushkar Damle, a social worker and businessman, said he makes it a point to go with his family every year and pay obeisance to Lalbaugcha Raja.
“There is a certain divine feeling that we get there, it’s difficult to express it in words. It’s almost like performing a pilgrimage,” explained Damle, who lives in Thane.
Recounting its origins, LRSGM secretary Sudhir Salvi said the Ganesh pandal and the nearby Parel market are located on land donated by a Muslim businessman, the late Rajjabali Tayyabali.
In 1934, the idol was attired in the traditional dress of the local Koli fisher folk, who believed that their two-year prayers for a permanent marketplace was fulfilled because of prayers to Lord Ganesh.
“Over the years, on certain occasions, Lalbaugcha Raja has been adorned in different attires. For instance, just prior to independence, in 1946, the idol was dressed as Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose,” Salvi said.
The very next year, when Ganeshotsav was celebrated barely a month after India’s freedom on Aug 15, 1947, Lord Ganesh was dressed up like Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, free India’s first prime minister, and depicted as riding a bullock cart.
The following year, when the country’s joys turned to mourning with the assassination of the Father of the Nation, Mahatma Gandhi, Lalbaugcha Raja was attired in his simple clothes, Salvi added.
“There is an attempt to tell a historic story or commemorate an important national event whenever possible. Hence we occasionally deviate from the regular attire of Lord Ganesh,” Salvi explained.
Ganesh baba came to Varanasi with his guru, Shivraj Giri for the Shiva ratri festival. I have no idea what this illness he suffers from is. What i can say is that for Indian pilgrims a was seen as very holy man, an incarnation of the elephant god Ganesh. Hadn’t he become a sadhu, this man would have most probably been a poorly treated individual, but his current position as a sadhu makes him a saint.
Ganesh baba came to Varanasi with his guru, Shivraj Giri for the Shiva ratri festival. I have no idea what this illness he suffers from is. What i can say is that for Indian pilgrims a was seen as very holy man, an incarnation of the elephant god Ganesh. Hadn’t he become a sadhu, this man would have most probably been a poorly treated individual, but his current position as a sadhu makes him a saint.
In 1946, despite bloody communal riots in the city, the organisers refused to change the route to take Lalbaugcha Raja for immersion to the historic Chowpatty beach in south Mumbai. Finally, the idol was taken for immersion only after 21 days, by the same route, with full security provided by its own volunteers.
This time, Lalbaugcha Raja and the devotees are being provided round-the-clock security by over 2,000 volunteers throughout the 10-day festival.
The umbrella organisation of 8,840 registered public Ganeshotsav associations, Brihanmumbai Sarvajanik Ganeshotsav Samanvaya Samiti (BSGSS), said insuring Ganesh pandals and devotees “is a positive step which can be emulated by others as per local needs”.
BSGSS president Pandurang Jadhav said that the organisation had cautioned all Ganesh mandals two years ago to ensure adequate security devotees during the festival.
Ganesh idol in Mumbai insured for Rs.26.5 mn
3 Sep 2008, IANS
Please read also
http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/god-insured-for-600000-in-india/
Hindutva Consolidation and Conscription in Tamil Nadu Through Celebrations
http://www.boloji.com/opinion/0094.htm
HardTalk
October 1, 2008 at 8:41 am
HEY, STUPID, IDIOT DAVID,
I DON,T KNOW WHAT I SHOULD SAY, ONLY THAT, WHY DON,T YOU OPEN YOUR INVESTIGATING AGENCY,
vid123
October 1, 2008 at 11:32 am
Pamposh – Accept it. It’s a reality that Hindus are selfish, unorganized and often coward (incl. myself). If problems could have resolved by maintaining peace then Paki issue (I don’t call Kashmir issue) would have been resolved decades ago. One person alone cannot make peace. For example, if I start slapping you and won’t stop, what would you do? Would you still maintain peace by not hitting me back?
Talking about soldiers. In India, ordinary life has no value. Yes, Soldier’s life is ordinary for these politicians. Now a days, soldiers death is merely a number and nothing more. See the injustice meted out to soldiers in 6th pay commission.
It’s time to spread Gita’s message amongst our family and kids:
a) This body is not who we are. ‘Aatma’ never dies and all this relations are nothing but ‘Maya’.
b) Do your Karma. After providing every peaceful opportunity, if the Adharmi is not curtailing his activity, it’s time to destroy the Adharmi.
Mahendra
October 1, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Mahendra ….
i dont think your population facts are right by faar ….
please get them right and then quote …
no doubts that moslem population has grown and they may be much greater than at independance …
but again there is no reason to believe that Hindus have given up producing children …
go to rural areas and u will know …
so no ways can Hindus be 70% from around 80% ….
but yes … Hindus need to be aware of growing moslems …
that Important …
and mahendra please dont say “please let it be a Hindu nation” …. seems like u are begging …
hope that is not the case … when u want to produce fighters urself … dont sound like a sisi …
Hindus will fight to the end …
we were not united before … we now are …
LONG LIVE THE GREAT COUNTRY OF INDIA …
chandra
October 1, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Mahendra …
u may be a coward … dont put Hindus into it … we always fought … we were “defeated” at time yes …
but we were not cowards … and never will be …
our army has defeated paki moslems so many times …
again we were defeated by china but we still fought hard …
so speak for yourself …
chandra
October 1, 2008 at 12:55 pm
if only “ASHOKA” had not given up fighting … and adopted buddhism things may have been different …
so it was the advent of buddhism that we were out on the backfoot …
and again … moslem fighters were known to be looters and rapers etc … so that is no bravado …
get out of the psyche … it will be better for you i guess …
chandra
October 1, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Mahendra,
I would not say that HINDUS are cowards, our religion is making us weak and too tolerant.
We have thrashed Pakistan many times in war and then got pity/appeasement over them.
So this time we should not step back, we should crush them next time.
As now KM’s are weak in valley so we should crush them before they raise there head again, we need to be shrewd which we are not.
>>Talking about soldiers. In India, ordinary life has >>no value
true, infact there is no value of life in india.
>>Would you still maintain peace by not hitting me >>back?
We don’t need Gandhi’s/Nehru, we would have progressed more if we had people like sardar patel/Jagmohan/sanjay gandhi.
Peace
Vicky
October 1, 2008 at 1:04 pm
again … kashmir is not an east issue to solve …
look around u … see how so many countries have cropped up out of no where …
see the balkans … indonesia … kosovo … georgia …
why is kashmir not independant ?????
its been 60 years …
India could have taken back pok … but there are strategies that work in politics …
i will leave the rest to imagination …
and yes i do agree with you when u say …
in India life is cheap …
well i have felt sad for our SECURITY FORCES TOO … everytime one dies its like my brother died …
and its sad … but we are the people who sit at home and dont vote … we are the people who watch elections go by … we are the people who dont want to go to our MP and put the issues in parliament …
lets make a start …
COME OUT AND VOTE …
REMEMBER …
things may not change in 1 year or 5 years … but every step has to be in the right direction …
its we who can SHAPE THE FUTURE INDIA …
VOTE AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE …
GOD BLESS INDIA …
chandra
October 1, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CHANDRA,
OUR RELIGION DEFINITELLY SPEAKE ABT PEACE,BUT ALSO SPEAKE ABT DESTROYING ‘ADHARMA’BY SAM, DAM,DAND,BHED,
& WE ALL MUST COME OUT & VOTE FOR HINDU PARTY,
JAI HIND.., HINDU PRAJA RAJAYAM.., VANDE MATRAM..
vid123
October 1, 2008 at 3:06 pm
& IF WE DO NOT BRING CHANGE AT DELHI, THEN WE SHOULDN’T COMPLAIN,
WE HAV TO UNITE, WE HAV TO FORGET OUR PETTY DIFFRENCES & I M SURE “HINDU PRAJA RAJAYAM” WILL PREVAIL…….,
VANDE MATRAM…………,
vid123
October 1, 2008 at 3:12 pm
MAHENDRA ..AS PER ME WE HINDUS ARE NOT SELFISH ..IF U THINK THEN I FEEL SORRY FOR U ..
ONE MORE THING .. WE PEOPLE WILL DEF. FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS BUT NOT IN THE WAY ..HW U WANT ..
ONE MORE THING ALL HINDUS ARE NOT COWARDS ..HWEVER EXCEPTIONS ARE ALWAYS THERE .. REFORMING STARTS FROM HOME
pamposh
October 1, 2008 at 3:15 pm
koul Anil said,
IT IS EXCELLENT TO FIND THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE READING US AND HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE THE JEHAD AGAINST ISLAM…..
NOW THAT U HAVE QUOTED ME LET ME QUOTE QURAN AND LET US SEE WHAT IT HAS FOR US… REFERENCES ARE CLEAR TO QURAN AND CAN BE FOUND IF U HAVE QURAN
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Here are the mantras from the Quran, which create the killing machines. Here is what Quran says about the unbelievers.
(Readers note: There are many similar verses in the Quran. I have given a partial list only)
God sealed the heart of non-believers, great penalty (2:7)
Even if some believe, God does not trust them (2:8)
In their heart is a disease, God has increased the disease (2:10)
Unbelievers make mischief on earth (2:11,12)
Wander like blind ones (2:15)
Deaf, dumb and blind (2:18)
The fuel of fire is men and stones (2:24)
Be apes (2:65)
Most grievous punishment (2:81,104)
Penalty shall not be lightened (2:86)
God curses the blasphemers (2:88)
God curses those without faith (2:89)
God’s wrath and humiliating punishment (2:90)
God is an enemy to those who reject faith (2:98)
Disgrace and exceeding torment for unbelievers (2:114)
Companion of blazing fire (2:119)
Only Islam is acceptable (3:85)
Punishment for rejecting faith (3:91)
No friends from outsiders (3:118)
God makes some one more sinful so he can be punished more (3:178)
Punishment for apostates (3:86-88, 3:90, 4:137, 16:106)
Torment for non-believers (4:56)
Kill non-believers (4:89)
Non-believers go to hell (4:140, 7:36)
Partial believers will go to hell too (4:150)
No friendship with non-believers (3:28, 4:144)
Severe punishment for atheists (5:10, 5:86)
No friendship with Jews, Christians (5:51)
Intentionally preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth (6:25, 110)
God could guide, if chose to, but He did not (6:35)
Those who reject faith are dogs (7:176)
Smite unbelievers at neck and cut off fingers (8:12)
Penalty for unbelievers is fire (8:14)
It is not ye who slew them; it was God (8:17)
God is a “plotter” (8:30)
Unbelievers are impure, will be heaped together and cast into hell (8:37)
Fight them on until there is no more tumult ….(8:39)
Taste the fire of blazing fire (8:50)
The worst of beasts is one who rejects God (8:55)
Apostle should not take prisoner of war …..(8:67)
Enjoy booty of unbelievers (8:69)
After the holy four months slay the pagans wherever you find them (9:5)
Mosques are for believers only (9:18)
No friends with parents/siblings if not believers (9:23)
Pagans are unclean (9:28)
Unbelievers pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Grievous punishment for not joining in war (9:39, 48:16))
Heat will be produced from the wealth the forehead branded (9:35)
Be firm against unbelievers (9:73)
Do not offer prayer at death of unbelievers (9:84,113)
Fight non-believers (9:123)
Boiling water for unbelievers (10:4)
Fire heaving of sighs & sobs for unbelievers (11:106)
Fire will seize unbelievers (11:113)
Yokes around necks, companions of fire (13:5, 2:81)
End of unbeliever is fire (13:35)
Intentionally misguiding those whom he pleases (14:4)
Boiling fetid water to drink) (14:16)
In gulp boiling water, death (14:17)
Unbelievers covered with shame and misery (16:31)
Fire for the pagans (16:62)
Hell a prison for those rejecting faith (17:8)
Unbelievers will burn in hell (17:18)
God destroys or punishes a population (17:58)
Intentionally preventing unbelievers from understanding Quran (17:45-46)
It is God who causes people to err and He punishes them for that (17:97)
Increases the fierceness of the fire (17:98)
Terrible punishment for unbelievers (18:2)
Fire like walls, roofs, waterlike melted brass to drink (18:29)
Sinners will not find a way to escape fire (18:53)
A veil put on heart (18:57)
Hell as entertainment for unbelievers.(18:102)
Those rejecting prayers face destruction (19:59)
Unbelievers brought on their knees round hell (19:68, 72)
Unbelievers will be burnt (19:70)
Torment of hell (44:43-58)
Sadistic punishment (56:42-43)
When you meet non-believers smite the neck of non-believers (47:4)
Severe punishment for non-believers (22:19-22, 72:23, 98:6)
(Quran translation by A. Yusuf Ali)
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AFTER GOING THROUGH THE MANTRAS OF SATANIC VERSES I BETTER SAY HINDU MANTRAS TOO….
ASTO MA SAT GAMAYA, TAMASO MA JOTIR GAMAYA, MIRTUR MA AMRUTAN GAMAYA
LOKA SAMASTA SUKHINO BAVANTU
ANIL
vid123
October 2, 2008 at 9:51 am
i think the next stop for KP’s to organize a rally for their cause is …
New Delhi ….
lets see if some group can do that …
i will join in for sure …
chandra
October 2, 2008 at 10:18 am
could be political or non political …
political will mean more people …
chandra
October 2, 2008 at 10:19 am
Can we also appeal the HUMAN RIGHTS that has taken basic rights of life from Muslims by muhammad and ISLAM…..
Can we talk about the people that are killed because ISLAM teaches them…..
Can we ask ISLAM to be brought down so that HUMANITY survives……
I want to ask world what about my muslim BROTHERS AND SISTERS whom Islam makes suffer even today
my brother legion is there some action possible to stop killings of MUSLIMS AND INFIDELS world wide…. where the root cause is the ISLAM it is know fact to u, me and WORLD….. Let us not kid ourselves….. I have left ISLAM but will fight for each and every life that comes in danger directly or indirectly by ISLAM… and its prophet
Ayesha Ahmed
10 sept
vid123
October 2, 2008 at 1:08 pm
PLEASE TAKE 10 MINS AND READ WHAT ALI SINA WRITES. HE MENTIONS INDIA ALSO, IT IS IMPORTANT WE SPEND 10 MINS READING IT, IF U WANT TO READ FORM HIS WESITE PLEASE CLICK ON MY NAME ABOVE. THANKS AND ENJOY THE TRUTH:
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Why You Fight Islam?
Ali Sina
2008/01/28
The above question is asked me often. In this essay I will answer that question. Recently, IntellectualWarfare12, a member of our forum wrote:
Mr.Sina:
What motivates you to open up this website and do this? I have never seen a more passionate person as you Ali Sina.
Too bad you are working for the wrong cause. You could have used your intelligence for science, law, or medicine. Ali Sina, it doesn’t make sense to defame Islam. It is a religion. Just please leave Islam be Mr Sina.
Peace out
Dear IntellectualWarfare12:
Science, law, and medicine are all noble causes. However, peace is the noblest of all causes. Millions of lives are destroyed through war and the agony that it causes is incalculable. What motivates me is peace. When I was a child the pictures of human sufferings in war perturbed me a lot. The passage of time has not numbed my senses and those scenes still trouble me.
I thought war is such a senseless thing. I could not understand why people fight and what motivates them to kill. It just made no sense. I wanted to know why there is so much hatred in the world.
I found a prayer that used to be said by San Francisco. I fell in love with it, memorized it, and used to recite it every day. Here is that prayer:
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace;
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
when there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.
Grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood, as to understand,
to be loved as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying [to ourselves] that we are born to eternal life.
When I grew up I realized that people hate and fight not for money or land but because of false beliefs. They kill with clarity of conscience, thinking that they are being righteous. These false beliefs are racial, political or religious. Irrespective of their genre, when a belief foments hate, it is necessarily false. Humans do not hate naturally. Toddlers have no prejudice towards each other and play with one another fondly. They have no concept of race, class, ideology or religion. They are taught to hate as they grow up.
When I read the Quran and felt blood dripping from every verse of it, when I saw that Islam reduces humans into beasts and makes monsters out of good people, when it became clear to me that there is NOTHING good in Islam and that it is all evil, I knew what I had to do. The time for praying was over and now it was the time for action. The “Lord” had shown me the way to live up to my prayer. I found the way to become an instrument of peace, to sow love, to practice faith, to herald hope, to shed light of understanding and to bring joy to saddened hearts. I found a way to do all that namelessly, without expecting rewards or recognition. I made it my mission to put an end to this big lie and to eradicate this doctrine of hate by speaking the truth.
Many people who disliked Muslims for what they do, have come to forgive them, for now they know that Muslims do evil out of ignorance. They are victims of a nefarious faith that is inculcated in them since childhood, from which they have no escape. I made their dislike give way to compassion and understanding.
I am now fulfilling my childhood prayer, word by word.
To bring peace, it is necessary to eliminate hate. There is nothing more hate mongering than Islam. This doctrine is more evil than Nazism and communism. It inspires more hatred and causes more division than either one of these ideologies that are also hate based. Islam is more insidious because it claims to be from God. It is this added lie that has given it longevity. As Hitler used to say, the bigger the lie, the more believable it becomes. Islam is the biggest deception ever.
The question of how one can eradicate the faith of a billion plus people who are willing to die and kill for their belief has never occurred to me. The answer was obvious all along. Islam is a lie and all it takes to dismantle a lie is truth. It does not matter how dark is the night; darkness can’t withstand light. In fact the darker it is the more vulnerable it becomes. Even a candle can pierce the heart of the darkest night.
I had prayed for faith. That too was granted to me. I have strong faith, not in fairytales and hocus pocus, but in goodness, in love and in truth. I have faith that if given the chance, goodness will triumph over evil, love will overcome hate and truth will demolish lies.
I do not believe that goodness will win automatically. In fact it is evil that wins by default. I do not think truth will prevail by itself. It must be told and defended. For the light of the truth to shine, it is necessary that the clouds of lies dissipate. If the gardener neglects the garden, weeds will suffocate the flowers. Someone must tell the truth. Someone must stand for what is right and fight the evil. It is not difficult to distinguish between truth and falsehood. Nonetheless, truth must be upheld or lies will win.
The proponents of lies are always active. They are virulent and relentless. Light is more powerful than darkness but someone must hold the torch high and protect its light. Just as evil has an army of fools that operate though ignorance, the lovers of truth must also stand for what they believe, form their ranks and hoist their standard high. The battle between good and evil is a constant. This is an ancient truth. We have been fooled to disregard it. We have been deluded by our misguided political correctness and mistaken multiculturalism. Evil is always evil. If we do not weed it out constantly, it will take over.
I am convinced that the days of Islam are numbered; that this doctrine of hate is at its death throes. Do not let its size fool you; Islam is like a tower, erected on sand duns. All it takes to demolish it is to expose its foundation and let the lies that are supporting it blow away. This edifice cannot be remodeled. You can never reform Islam. It is firmly built on lies. You can only demolish it by exposing those lies and by telling the truth about the despicable and shameful character of its pedophile, rapist founder.
Reforming Islam is an exercise in futility. It is impossible and it will frustrate the efforts of those who try it. By trying to reform Islam you validate it. This was what Rumi and other benighted Muslim sears did. The Persians were more sophisticated and had a richer culture than their Arab conquerors. They could not stomach the absurdities of the primitive religion that was imposed on them. Not daring to reject it sulla pena di morte, they used their genius to reinterpret it and gave esoteric meanings to its blatantly asinine and banal concepts. They donned that brute with silken philosophies, and masked its ugly face with borrowed mysticism. Thus, they fooled themselves, mislead others and breathed a new life into the fetid corpse of this Arab cult. They envisioned a mirage in the barren desert of Islam and gave to the gullible false hopes.
It is foolish to believe that there are many forms of Islam. Islam is one, even though each Muslim interprets it in his own way. Only one interpretation is correct and that is the one that is closest to the thinking of Muhammad. The Salafis are closest to the truth. That is the Islam of Bin Laden and other jihadis. The oxymoronic “moderate Muslims” are merely fooling themselves. By upholding Islam they also validate it. They validate its terrorism even though they claim not to agree with it. These befogged so called moderates are far more dangerous than their terrorist brothers. The terrorists kill a few, while these misguided “moderates” prolong the lie of Islam and perpetuate the hatred and division of mankind for centuries to come.
Islam is a cult invented by a narcissist psychopath. It was a tool for a highway robber to enrich himself by giving the foolhardy, bogus promises of the afterlife and make him do his biddings to the point of self sacrifice. What is there to reform in Islam and why? If it is good why reform it and if it is bad why keep it? Why worship a plunderer mass murderer? Isn’t that foolish? It is stupid to tolerate this much stupidity. We must end this insanity by telling the truth and not by sugarcoating an old lie with more lies.
Islam will be eradicated, if we decide that it should be. Things do not happen by themselves. In human sphere humans are in charge. The Meccans had the chance to nip in the bud this evil, but they didn’t. Thus evil triumphed. At any time in history people had the chance to get rid of Islam, but they didn’t. Today this plague is threatening the world peace and the survival of human civilization. It is either one or the other. Either millions, mostly Muslims, will perish in a nuclear holocaust or Muslims will take over the world through over-bearding. Then they will end human civilization and mankind will revert to barbarity. Today we have a golden opportunity to eradicate Islam – an opportunity that never existed before and will end if Muslims become powerful enough to silence their critics as they are doing in UK, India and some other non-Muslim countries. Whether we take advantage of this opportunity or let it slip out of our hands is up to us. We do not have much time left. Muslims are becoming more numerous and consequently bullier by day.
Islam will be eradicated if we spread the truth. It is the truth that will set us free. For this to happen we need millions of dedicated souls who take upon themselves to soldier this cause. We need torchbearers and light givers.
We humans are the authors of our own reality. The reality that we live today is what we projected yesterday and what we project today will determine our reality tomorrow. Things will happen only when we believe in them. The world is not an illusion. It is real. Its pains and sufferings are real. But they are the outcome of our own thinking. This is the world that we built with our own thinking. We can change it, but first we must change our thinking.
Imagine a world without hatred. A world where there are no racial, class, caste and religious animosity. If you can imagine such a world, and if you pass that dream to others so they can envision it too, it won’t take long before you can actually see that dream come true. Everything that is a reality today was once in the realm of imagination. Someone had envisioned it; someone had thought about it and passed that thought to others who expanded it until it eventually took the form of reality. Everything in our world is the product of our imagination. We are masters of our own destiny.
Islam was a dream of a psychopath. His insane dream materialized because he believed in it. He passed his raving ideas to others who mindlessly believed and perpetuated them to this day. We can stop this insanity by having a different dream – the dream of unity of mankind. Believe in it and pass it on and strive to achieve it with religious fervor. Have faith in its realization and confidence that we will be victorious. Reality starts in our minds. Only believers will succeed. Those who have faith will win.
You ask me why I am so passionate. It is because I am aware of the power of faith. We are waging a war against the insanity of a billion misinformed souls who religiously believe in a lie and are willing to kill and die for it. We can’t afford to doubt. We can’t vacillate and falter. Only if you believe in our success and are motivated, can you motivate others.
Islam can and will be defeated in our own lifetime. I believe that humans are naturally good. Muslims are a part of humanity. They are not evil by nature, but live in darkness. All you have to do to help them out of this darkness is become a torch bearer and illumine their path to freedom.
What make Islam survive are lies. Lies such as, “Islam means peace” and “Don’t blame Islam for the bad deeds of Muslims”, are what prolong this evil doctrine. If we fight these lies with truth soon Islam will be defeated.
Recently the British government decided to call Islamic terrorism, “anti Islamic activity.” The architect of this supreme idiocy is Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith. This brain damaged woman thinks that by giving a new name to Islamic Jihad she can fool Muslims, as if she knows Islam better. She wants to play reverse psychology with faithful believers who will laugh at her naiveté. Can one become any stupider than this?
If you are shocked by this much lack of common sense wait till you hear what Hazel Blears, UK’s Communities Secretary has done. In last October, she gave £70 million in Government funds to Muslim groups to “help tackle extremism.” Yes, you read it right. She gave seventy million pounds to Muslims to make them disregard Islam and love UK instead. This is like giving money to the Mafia to fight crime. How can one promote Islam and fight it at the same time? This much stupidity, is mind boggling.
This is what Muhammad taught:
“An intelligent person is one who is constantly thinking about and preparing for death.”
“It is better for a man that a steel nail be driven through the center of his head rather than if he touches the palm of a strange women.”
How can one fight extremism without discrediting Muhammad and making Muslims realize that that man was a liar? Should Muslims listen to western women (whom they call whores) to tell them about Islam or to their prophet? All that money will make Islam stronger in UK and that means more extremism and more terrorism. Just wait and see. Blood of innocent people will run and their body parts will blow apart because of the foolish actions of these two deficient in intelligence women. Why these ignoramuses do not read the Quran to see that the source of Islamic terrorism is that book and to fight it one must outlaw Islam and not promote it? Why some people prefer to hide their heads in the sand and seek their salvation in lies? These two women should be charged with treason and the Labor Party should be banned. Ignorance is a valid excuse, but there is no excuse when it is this colossal. My blood boils when I see this much folly. This is like funding the Nazi Party to encourage Hitler to abandon his war plans. How can such harebrain people become ministers? These two idiots must be pilloried and spitted at.
Stupidity apart there is a lot of ignorance surrounding Islam. We can’t make stupid people wise, but we can reduce their ignorance. It is up to ordinary people such as us to wake up the masses. Ignorance is not bliss; it is deadly. Ignorant politicians will sell out our countries to our enemies. It is up to us to put an end to this ignorance.
The only thing that dampens the zealotry of jihadis is defeat, while victory emboldens them and makes them more resolute. This whole Islamic insanity has its roots in the success of the Islamic revolution in Iran. Millions of Muslims celebrated and their faith increased after Bin Laden’s success in attacking America and killing thousands of people with such an ease. On the other hand many Muslims vacillated after that scum was sacked from Afghanistan and like a rat had to seek refuge in a hole. Giving money to Muslims, or buying their taqiyyah tactic that Islamic terrorism is anti Islamic activity, is interpreted as success by Muslims and this only will increase their faith that Islam is on the verge of winning and Jihad must be intensified.
We can eradicate Islam, but first we must believe that it can be done. To do that, we need both knowledge and faith. We need to face the truth and also have confidence in our success. Nothing is impossible, except that the state of our mind makes it so. All doors are open to us, except those that we close.
Islam will be defeated only if we believe it. Do not be fooled by the sweet lies of “moderate Muslims”. There is no such thing as moderate Islam or moderate Muslim. These so called moderates are either ignorant of Islam or hypocrites who try to pull the wool over your eyes. Do not listen to them. Do not encourage their deceptive talk. Accept nothing short of the total eradication of Islam. This disease must be wiped out. There can’t be a moderate Islam just as there is no such thing as healthy disease or sensible insanity. Islam is extreme. To fight Islamic extremism you have to fight Islam. There is no middle ground. Either you eradicate Islam or Islam will eradicate you. The choice is yours.
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THE ABOVE IS FROM FAITH FREEDOM DOT ORG AND IS WRITTEN BY ALI SINA HIMSELF:
THANKS FOR READING IT, WE ALL NEED TO THINK AND ACT NOW, ANY INPUTS PLEASE DO WRITE
YOUR BROTHER
KULDEEP
vid123
October 2, 2008 at 1:14 pm
How to Regain Universal Glory through Jihadi Terrorism
By Ayesha Ahmed
The lily livered weak Muslims are trying to publicize Islam as religion of peace and our great apostle as a soft hearted man to appease their western infidel masters… They insult him by saying that he was the kindest man who ever lived. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Had Islam been a religion of peace nobody would have been a Muslim today. Masahallah we have 1.2 billion Muslims and are growing very fast. Had our apostle been a very kind man, he would have died a destitute widower instead of dieing a wealthy polygamist with 9 young beautiful wives, lot of property and a large number of slave men and women.
The fact is that our apostle was a very successful terrorist, the likes of whom the world had not seen nor will they ever see, and he was darned proud of it.
“Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.” Bukhari 4:52:220
Only terrorism works. That is how Muslims conquered most of the world in the record time of 100 years. And God willing that is the only way we can conquer the world again, Inshallah.
CHOP HANDS, CUT THROATS, STONE PEOPLE
The greatest Muslim leader of modern times Imam Khomeni said it in 1981 to Muslim umma:
“Quran says; kill, imprison!
Why are you only clinging to those parts that talk about mercy?
Mercy is against God.
We need a Khalifa who would chop hands, cut throat, stone people
In the same way that the messenger of God used to chop hands, cut throats, and stone people”.
A HUMILIATING FABRICATED HADITH
There is a humiliating story is quoted by all Muslims, to show our prophet was kind and please the kafirs. It is about a deranged old Jewish woman who used to throw garbage over our great apostle every day as he passed by her house. They say that the apostle one day did not see the woman and upon enquiry he found out that she was sick. So he went to pay her a visit and showed her kindness. What a lie! How could a man who cut throats for excitement take that kind of abuse lying down (The only thing he took lying down in his life was his child wife, 9 year old Ayesha, who was too tiny to handle his hefty weight in the traditional missionary position. Our prophet was against missionaries).
That story belongs to Abdul Baha, the prophet of the najis Bahais and a courageous Arab woman in Akka and not to our holy prophet. Such story does not exist in any hadith. It is plagiarized to make our holy prophet look weak. He was a courageous man. He ordered the assassination of a Jewish woman only because she had composed poetries against him. Would he let a Jewess throw garbage at him and then go and pay her a visit?.
TERRORISM IS DIVINE
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them.
Ishaq:461 “Muhammad besieged them for twenty-five nights. When the siege became too severe for them, Allah terrorized them. Then they were told to submit
HOW TO TERRORIZE THE WORLD THROUGH QURAN AND HADITH IN 10 EASY STEPS
1- FIRST WE MUST CLEAN OUR OWN HOUSE
A- IDENTIFY AND KILL ALL THE APOSTATES
Allah has said “Kill the renegades” (4.89)
In another verse Allah said about apostates “they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and feet be cut off from the opposite sides, or exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world; and a great torment is theirs in the hereafter.” (Surah al Maidah:Verse 33).
Apostle has said:
“The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.” Bukhari: 4.52.260
Ishaq:550 “The reason that Allah’s Messenger ordered Abdullash Bin Sarh slain was because he had become a Muslim and used to write down Qur’an Revelation. Then he apostatized (rejected Islam) after becoming suspicious of some verses which prophet changed after his suggestions.”
Ishaq:551 The Messenger ordered Miqyas’ assassination because he became a renegade by rejecting Islam.”
Bukhari, 5-59-632 Once Muadh paid a visit to Abu Musa and saw a chained man. Muadh asked, “What is this?” Abu Musa said, “(He was) a Jew who embraced Islam and has now turned apostate.” Muadh said, “I will surely chop off his neck!”
Bukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:
Narrated ‘Abdullah:
Allah’s Apostle said, “The blood of a Muslim cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and
leaves the Muslims.”
Ali burnt some people alive (former muslims)., Prophet had said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Bukhari: 4.52.260
vid123
October 2, 2008 at 1:37 pm
We do agree that ISLAM is religion of peace and Justice —- is this what is peace and justice
Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)
8:12 When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
above is a quote from holy quran —- I tried looking and reading quran and all I really find is this kind of stuff — can any one help me find peaceful version of quran …. I looked at this website — please let me know is this website also made by Anti muslims like Ali Sina or is it real quran Please any Muslim confirm — I am eager to find the real quran online and this is the closest I found — I saw through chapters and can look through the meanings given by different people — meanings vary a little bit but the bottom line is same—
Please confir here is the website
http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/
I used chapter index and I like Picktall translation — muslims please help me here I am sincerily looking to read meaning of quran — is the above site authentic and meanings close enough or accurate…. I dont prefer to read Ali sina or likes as most people here said they are anti muslims so help needed…..
Raju
R Dhar
October 4, 2008 at 2:24 am
mr raju .. are u still confused over the reality of islam …well it is crystal clear to me…the best example wt islam is the present world ….look around and see wht islam has done to this peaceful world
pamposh
October 4, 2008 at 3:37 am
Thanks pamposh — i am interested in reading authentic peaceful quran that is claimed by muslims over here and worldwide — my question is
http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/
website having the authentic Quran that is given by alla or not — or is that also a creation of some anti muslim people — I am surprised to see what people have quoted quran so far it does match the numbers and the explanation on above site —
That is all my question … please it will be great if u or Anil jee or any muslim gives me that answer.
I am really interested in reading quran…
thanks
Raju
R Dhar
October 4, 2008 at 5:40 am
pamposh for example if i type in search by verse like 8:12
http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/
Picktall translation gives this from above site:
8:12 When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
while as ayesha or vid quoted this meaning:
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
Which one is correct translation — I am confused which one is more realistic or peaceful meaning or is there some other way I have to understand or read quran—
I hope i made myself clear please pamposh I am avoiding reading biased info from people like Ali Sina etc but going to the source the book of alla that is Quran…
Raju
R Dhar
October 4, 2008 at 5:48 am
8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” – English
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Angels:fighting] [Badr]
Ith yoohee rabbuka ila almalaikati annee maAAakum fathabbitoo allatheena amanoo saolqee fee quloobi allatheena kafaroo alrruAAba faidriboo fawqa alaAAnaqi waidriboo minhum kulla bananin
إِذْ يُوحِي رَبُّكَ إِلَى الْمَلآئِكَةِ أَنِّي مَعَكُمْ فَثَبِّتُواْ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ سَأُلْقِي فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ الرَّعْبَ فَاضْرِبُواْ فَوْقَ الأَعْنَاقِ وَاضْرِبُواْ مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ (8:12)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
mr raju the above one is the authentic and only ayesha ahmed tried to translate if othre way … personally i feel that both of them say to terrorise the non believers ie we people
pamposh
October 4, 2008 at 4:24 pm
i welcome my muslim frnds ..if they feel that the above one is not authentic
pamposh
October 4, 2008 at 4:29 pm
IF ABOVE VERSE WERE NOT AUTHENTIC THEN WHY WOULD MOSLIMS AROUND WORLD WOULD BEHAVE THE WAY THEY R DOING SINCE, EXISTANCE OF ISLAM ABT 1400 YRS OF HISTORY, VISIT “ALI SINA” SITE, “FAITH FREEDOM .ORG”
vid123
October 7, 2008 at 6:38 am
Dear pamposh and Vid,
I have heard lots of muslims here say Islam means peace. I am trying to find where in Islam it is peace — or is there some other quran “peaceful” that we or Ali Sina missed.
I was reading through the chapter ( Tauba…. ) Couldn’t believe all it has is killings and violence.
Hope I explained my stand. …. looking for peaceful books of Islam and cant find one…. all i hear is Islam is peace and we interpret it wrongly and out of context …. I think that is crap….. We never tell them u interpret our books out of context…. our books are written by saints and sages…. but they have peace in them
Quran is suposedly written by allah the god himself why it lacks peace and love…… I wonder….
Raju
R Dhar
October 7, 2008 at 11:11 am
R Dhar/ Raju,
####Quran is suposedly written by allah the god himself why it lacks peace and love…… I wonder….####
welcome to the club!!!!!!!!!!!!
it is not only you, all sane minds are cracking their heads over these idiotic followers.
venkat
venkat
October 7, 2008 at 11:32 am
Looked through the Islam city great when I clicked on Love found in Quran here are the results … later I will look for peace too and see really what it has —-
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Love:
of Allah (6)
of one another (5)
IslamiCity
Search For: 1862 – Love: of Allah – Love: of Allah
Al-Baqara (The Cow)
2:165 And yet there are people who choose to believe in beings that allegedly rival God, [131] loving them as [only] God should be loved: whereas those who have attained to faith love God more than all else. If they who are bent on evildoing could but see – as see they will when they are made to suffer [132] [on Resurrection Day] -that all might belongs to God alone, and that God is severe in [meting out] punishment!
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:love for Him] [Allah's attributes:strict in punishment] [Believers:overflowing in their love for Allah] [Faith:rejecters of] [Love:of Allah]
Wamina alnnasi man yattakhithu min dooni Allahi andadan yuhibboonahum kahubbi Allahi waallatheena amanoo ashaddu hubban lillahi walaw yara allatheena thalamoo ith yarawna alAAathaba anna alquwwata lillahi jameeAAan waanna Allaha shadeedu alAAathabi
وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَتَّخِذُ مِن دُونِ اللّهِ أَندَاداً يُحِبُّونَهُمْ كَحُبِّ اللّهِ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ أَشَدُّ حُبًّا لِّلّهِ وَلَوْ يَرَى الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُواْ إِذْ يَرَوْنَ الْعَذَابَ أَنَّ الْقُوَّةَ لِلّهِ جَمِيعاً وَأَنَّ اللّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعَذَابِ (2:165)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Baqara (The Cow)
2:177 True piety does not consist in turning your faces towards the east or the west [143] – but truly pious is he who believes in God, and the Last Day; and the angels, and revelation, [144] and the prophets; and spends his substance – however much he himself may cherish – it – upon his near of kin, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, [145] and the beggars, and for the freeing of human beings from bondage; [146] and is constant in prayer, and renders the purifying dues; and [truly pious are] they who keep their promises whenever they promise, and are patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril: it is they that have proved themselves true, and it is they, they who are conscious of God.
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:love for Him] [Angels:belief in] [Charity [zakah]] [Contracts] [Day of judgment:belief in] [Distribution of charity] [Faith] [Kin] [Love:of Allah] [Messengers:belief in] [Orphans] [Patience] [Qur'an:belief in] [Righteousness] [Slaves:freeing of] [Spending in the cause of Allah] [Zakah]
Laysa albirra an tuwalloo wujoohakum qibala almashriqi waalmaghribi walakinna albirra man amana biAllahi waalyawmi alakhiri waalmalaikati waalkitabi waalnnabiyyeena waata almala AAala hubbihi thawee alqurba waalyatama waalmasakeena waibna alssabeeli waalssaileena wafee alrriqabi waaqama alssalata waata alzzakata waalmoofoona biAAahdihim itha AAahadoo waalssabireena fee albasai waalddarrai waheena albasi olaika allatheena sadaqoo waolaika humu almuttaqoona
لَّيْسَ الْبِرَّ أَن تُوَلُّواْ وُجُوهَكُمْ قِبَلَ الْمَشْرِقِ وَالْمَغْرِبِ وَلَـكِنَّ الْبِرَّ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَالْمَلآئِكَةِ وَالْكِتَابِ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ وَآتَى الْمَالَ عَلَى حُبِّهِ ذَوِي الْقُرْبَى وَالْيَتَامَى وَالْمَسَاكِينَ وَابْنَ السَّبِيلِ وَالسَّآئِلِينَ وَفِي الرِّقَابِ وَأَقَامَ الصَّلاةَ وَآتَى الزَّكَاةَ وَالْمُوفُونَ بِعَهْدِهِمْ إِذَا عَاهَدُواْ وَالصَّابِرِينَ فِي الْبَأْسَاء والضَّرَّاء وَحِينَ الْبَأْسِ أُولَـئِكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُوا وَأُولَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُتَّقُونَ (2:177)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Imran (The Family of Imran)
3:31 Say [O Prophet]: “If you love God, follow me, [and] God will love you and forgive you your sins; for God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.”
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:forgives sins] [Allah:love for Him] [Allah's attributes:Most Merciful] [Allah's attributes:Oft_Forgiving] [Love:of Allah]
Qul in kuntum tuhibboona Allaha faittabiAAoonee yuhbibkumu Allahu wayaghfir lakum thunoobakum waAllahu ghafoorun raheemun
قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ اللّهَ فَاتَّبِعُونِي يُحْبِبْكُمُ اللّهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ وَاللّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ (3:31)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Ma’idah (The Table Spread)
5:54 O you who have attained to faith! If you ever abandon your faith,” [76] God will in time bring forth [in your stead] people whom He loves and who love Him – humble towards the believers, proud towards all who deny the truth: [people] who strive hard in God’s cause, and do not fear to be censured by anyone who might censure them: such is God’s favour, which He grants unto whom He wills. And God is infinite, all-knowing.
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:love for Him] [Allah's attributes:All Embracing (cares for all)] [Fighting (and striving) in the ca'use of Allah] [Kabah] [Love:of Allah]
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo man yartadda minkum AAan deenihi fasawfa yatee Allahu biqawmin yuhibbuhum wayuhibboonahu athillatin AAala almumineena aAAizzatin AAala alkafireena yujahidoona fee sabeeli Allahi wala yakhafoona lawmata laimin thalika fadlu Allahi yuteehi man yashao waAllahu wasiAAun AAaleemun
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ مَن يَرْتَدَّ مِنكُمْ عَن دِينِهِ فَسَوْفَ يَأْتِي اللّهُ بِقَوْمٍ يُحِبُّهُمْ وَيُحِبُّونَهُ أَذِلَّةٍ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَعِزَّةٍ عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ يُجَاهِدُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ وَلاَ يَخَافُونَ لَوْمَةَ لآئِمٍ ذَلِكَ فَضْلُ اللّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَاء وَاللّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ (5:54)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Anbiya (The Prophets)
21:90 And so We responded unto him, and bestowed upon him the gift of John, having made his wife fit to bear him a child: [86] [and,] verily, these [three] would vie with one another in doing good works, and would call unto Us in yearning and awe; and they were always humble before Us.
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:love for Him] [Jesus:a sign] [Jesus:and the Holy Spirit] [Love:of Allah] [Spirit the] [Yahya] [Zakariya:prayer of]
Faistajabna lahu wawahabna lahu yahya waaslahna lahu zawjahu innahum kanoo yusariAAoona fee alkhayrati wayadAAoonana raghaban warahaban wakanoo lana khashiAAeena
فَاسْتَجَبْنَا لَهُ وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُ يَحْيَى وَأَصْلَحْنَا لَهُ زَوْجَهُ إِنَّهُمْ كَانُوا يُسَارِعُونَ فِي الْخَيْرَاتِ وَيَدْعُونَنَا رَغَبًا وَرَهَبًا وَكَانُوا لَنَا خَاشِعِينَ (21:90)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Insan (Man)
76:8 and who give food – however great be their own want of it [10] – unto the needy, and the orphan, and the captive, [11]
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:love for Him] [Captives] [Feeding the poor:in devotion] [Gardens of Paradise] [Love:of Allah] [Reward without measure:described] [Righteous:Righteous the]
WayutAAimona alttaAAama AAala hubbihi miskeenan wayateeman waaseeran
وَيُطْعِمُونَ الطَّعَامَ عَلَى حُبِّهِ مِسْكِينًا وَيَتِيمًا وَأَسِيرًا (76:8)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Search For: 1863 – Love: of one another – Love: of one another
Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)
8:63 whose hearts He has brought together: [for,] if thou hadst expended all that is on earth, thou couldst not have brought their hearts together [by thyself]: but God did bring them together. Verily, He is almighty, wise.
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah's attributes:Exalted in Power and Might] [Allah's attributes:Wise] [Believers:Allah puts affection in their hearts] [Love:of one another]
Waallafa bayna quloobihim law anfaqta ma fee alardi jameeAAan ma allafta bayna quloobihim walakinna Allaha allafa baynahum innahu AAazeezun hakeemun
وَأَلَّفَ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِهِمْ لَوْ أَنفَقْتَ مَا فِي الأَرْضِ جَمِيعاً مَّا أَلَّفَتْ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَلَـكِنَّ اللّهَ أَلَّفَ بَيْنَهُمْ إِنَّهُ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ (8:63)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Ar-Rum (The Romans)
30:21 And among His wonders is this: He creates for you mates out of your own kind. [15] so that you might incline towards them, and He engenders love and tenderness between you: in this, behold, there are messages indeed for people who think!
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Love:of one another] [Marriage] [Signs in creation]
Wamin ayatihi an khalaqa lakum min anfusikum azwajan litaskunoo ilayha wajaAAala baynakum mawaddatan warahmatan inna fee thalika laayatin liqawmin yatafakkaroona
وَمِنْ آيَاتِهِ أَنْ خَلَقَ لَكُم مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَزْوَاجًا لِّتَسْكُنُوا إِلَيْهَا وَجَعَلَ بَيْنَكُم مَّوَدَّةً وَرَحْمَةً إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَآيَاتٍ لِّقَوْمٍ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ (30:21)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Hashr (The Gathering)
59:9 And [it shall be offered, too, unto the poor from among] those who, before them, [12] had their abode in this realm and in faith – [those] who love all that come to them in search of refuge, and who harbour in their hearts no grudge for whatever the others may have been given, but rather give them preference over themselves, even though poverty be their own lot: [13] for, such as from their own covetousness are saved – it is they, they that shall attain to a happy state! [14]
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Ansaar:of Madinah] [Love:of one another] [Muhajirs] [Ummah ( Islamic Unity ):unity and brotherhood of]
Waallatheena tabawwaoo alddara waaleemana min qablihim yuhibboona man hajara ilayhim wala yajidoona fee sudoorihim hajatan mimma ootoo wayuthiroona AAala anfusihim walaw kana bihim khasasatun waman yooqa shuhha nafsihi faolaika humu almuflihoona
وَالَّذِينَ تَبَوَّؤُوا الدَّارَ وَالْإِيمَانَ مِن قَبْلِهِمْ يُحِبُّونَ مَنْ هَاجَرَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَا يَجِدُونَ فِي صُدُورِهِمْ حَاجَةً مِّمَّا أُوتُوا وَيُؤْثِرُونَ عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ وَلَوْ كَانَ بِهِمْ خَصَاصَةٌ وَمَن يُوقَ شُحَّ نَفْسِهِ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ (59:9)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Hashr (The Gathering)
59:10 And so, they who come after them pray: [15] “O our Sustainer! Forgive us our sins, as well as those of our brethren who preceded us in faith, and let not our hearts entertain any unworthy thoughts or feelings against [any of] those who have attained to faith. O our Sustainer! Verily, Thou art compassionate, a dispenser of grace!”
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah's attributes:full of kindness] [Allah's attributes:Most Merciful] [Faith] [Love:of one another] [Muhajirs] [Ummah ( Islamic Unity ):unity and brotherhood of]
Waallatheena jaoo min baAAdihim yaqooloona rabbana ighfir lana waliikhwanina allatheena sabaqoona bialeemani wala tajAAal fee quloobina ghillan lillatheena amanoo rabbana innaka raoofun raheemun
وَالَّذِينَ جَاؤُوا مِن بَعْدِهِمْ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَؤُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ (59:10)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
Al-Mumtahinah (The Examined One)
60:7 [But] it may well be that God will bring about [mutual] affection between you [O believers] and some of those whom you [now] face as enemies: for, God is all-powerful – and God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah's attributes:Most Merciful] [Allah's attributes:Oft_Forgiving] [Friendship] [Love:of one another]
AAasa Allahu an yajAAala baynakum wabayna allatheena AAadaytum minhum mawaddatan waAllahu qadeerun waAllahu ghafoorun raheemun
عَسَى اللَّهُ أَن يَجْعَلَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ الَّذِينَ عَادَيْتُم مِّنْهُم مَّوَدَّةً وَاللَّهُ قَدِيرٌ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ (60:7)
Baset – Hussari – Minshawi
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ALL THE above is on LOVE in QURAN …. soon I will search peace … that my muslim brothers claim ISLAM means peace???
happy reading Thanks Raju for pointing this site … It is what we can quote easily ….
Love and peace
Anil
Koul Anil
October 8, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I JUST REMOVED ARABIC IT WAS TOOO CONFUSING AND LONG TO READ AND UNDERSTAND
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Love:
of Allah (6)
of one another (5)
IslamiCity
Search For: 1862 – Love: of Allah – Love: of Allah
Al-Baqara (The Cow)
2:165 And yet there are people who choose to believe in beings that allegedly rival God, [131] loving them as [only] God should be loved: whereas those who have attained to faith love God more than all else. If they who are bent on evildoing could but see – as see they will when they are made to suffer [132] [on Resurrection Day] -that all might belongs to God alone, and that God is severe in [meting out] punishment!
Al-Baqara (The Cow)
2:177 True piety does not consist in turning your faces towards the east or the west [143] – but truly pious is he who believes in God, and the Last Day; and the angels, and revelation, [144] and the prophets; and spends his substance – however much he himself may cherish – it – upon his near of kin, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, [145] and the beggars, and for the freeing of human beings from bondage; [146] and is constant in prayer, and renders the purifying dues; and [truly pious are] they who keep their promises whenever they promise, and are patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril: it is they that have proved themselves true, and it is they, they who are conscious of God.
Al-Imran (The Family of Imran)
3:31 Say [O Prophet]: “If you love God, follow me, [and] God will love you and forgive you your sins; for God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.”
Al-Ma’idah (The Table Spread)
5:54 O you who have attained to faith! If you ever abandon your faith,” [76] God will in time bring forth [in your stead] people whom He loves and who love Him – humble towards the believers, proud towards all who deny the truth: [people] who strive hard in God’s cause, and do not fear to be censured by anyone who might censure them: such is God’s favour, which He grants unto whom He wills. And God is infinite, all-knowing.
Al-Anbiya (The Prophets)
21:90 And so We responded unto him, and bestowed upon him the gift of John, having made his wife fit to bear him a child: [86] [and,] verily, these [three] would vie with one another in doing good works, and would call unto Us in yearning and awe; and they were always humble before Us.
Al-Insan (Man)
76:8 and who give food – however great be their own want of it [10] – unto the needy, and the orphan, and the captive, [11]
Search For: 1863 – Love: of one another – Love: of one another
Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)
8:63 whose hearts He has brought together: [for,] if thou hadst expended all that is on earth, thou couldst not have brought their hearts together [by thyself]: but God did bring them together. Verily, He is almighty, wise.
Ar-Rum (The Romans)
30:21 And among His wonders is this: He creates for you mates out of your own kind. [15] so that you might incline towards them, and He engenders love and tenderness between you: in this, behold, there are messages indeed for people who think!
Al-Hashr (The Gathering)
59:9 And [it shall be offered, too, unto the poor from among] those who, before them, [12] had their abode in this realm and in faith – [those] who love all that come to them in search of refuge, and who harbour in their hearts no grudge for whatever the others may have been given, but rather give them preference over themselves, even though poverty be their own lot: [13] for, such as from their own covetousness are saved – it is they, they that shall attain to a happy state! [14]
Al-Hashr (The Gathering)
59:10 And so, they who come after them pray: [15] “O our Sustainer! Forgive us our sins, as well as those of our brethren who preceded us in faith, and let not our hearts entertain any unworthy thoughts or feelings against [any of] those who have attained to faith. O our Sustainer! Verily, Thou art compassionate, a dispenser of grace!”
Al-Mumtahinah (The Examined One)
60:7 [But] it may well be that God will bring about [mutual] affection between you [O believers] and some of those whom you [now] face as enemies: for, God is all-powerful – and God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.
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HOPE IT WAS EASY FOR ENGISH READERS NOW — THAT IS ALL THE REFERENCES TO LOVE IN QURAN — ACCORDING TO ISLAM CITY — QURAN SEARCH PAGE
NEXT WILL BE PEACE
LOVE AND PEACE
ANIL
Koul Anil
October 8, 2008 at 5:51 pm
HERE THIS IS ON PEACE: IN WHOLE QURAN — TAKE LITTLE TIME AND PLEASE DO READ—
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Peace:
after war (2)
greeting in Paradise (12)
sent down by Allah (6)
upon Allah’s servants and messengers (17)
IslamiCity
Search For: 2084 – Peace: after war – Peace: after war
Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)
8:61 But if they incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing!
At-Tauba (The Repentance)
9:10 respecting no tie and no protective obligation with regard to a believer; and it is they, they who transgress the bounds of what is right! [16]
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Search For: 2085 – Peace: greeting in Paradise – Peace: greeting in Paradise
Yunus (Jonah)
10:10 [and] in that [state of happiness] they will call out, [15] “Limitless art Thou in Thy glory, O God!”-and will be answered with the greeting, “Peace !” [16] And their call will close with [the words], “All praise is due to God, the Sustainer of all the worlds!”
Ar-Ra’d (The Thunder)
13:24 “Peace be upon you, because you have persevered!” How excellent, then, this fulfilment in the hereafter!
Ibrahim (Abraham)
14:23 But those who shall have attained to faith and done righteous deeds will be brought into gardens through which running waters flow, therein to abide by their Sustainer’s leave, and will be welcomed with the greeting, “Peace!” [35]
Al-Hijr (The Rocky Tract)
15:46 [having been received with the greeting,] “Enter here in peace, secure!”
An-Nahl (The Bee)
16:32 those whom the angels gather in death while they are in a state of inner purity, greeting them thus: “Peace be upon you! Enter paradise by virtue of what you were doing [in life]!”
Maryam (Mary)
19:62 No empty talk will they hear there-nothing but [tidings of] inner soundness and peace; [48] and there will they have their sustenance by day and by night: [49]
Al-Furqan (The Criterion)
25:75 [Such as] these will be rewarded for all their patient endurance [in life] with a high station [in paradise], and will be met therein with a greeting of welcome and peace,
Al-Ahzab (The Confederates)
33:44 On the Day when they meet Him, they will be welcomed with the greeting, “Peace”; and He will have readied for them a most excellent reward.
Ya-Sin (Ya-Sin)
36:58 peace and fulfillment through the word of a Sustainer who dispenses all grace. [29]
Az-Zumar (The Groups)
39:73 But those who were conscious of their Sustainer will be urged on in throngs towards paradise till, when they reach it, they shall find its gates wide- open; [75] and its keepers will say unto them, “Peace be upon you! Well have you done: enter, then, this [paradise], herein to abide!”
Al-Waqi’a (The Event)
56:26 but only the tiding of inner soundness and peace. [9]
Al-Waqi’a (The Event)
56:91 [he, too, will be welcomed into paradise with the words,] “Peace be unto thee [that art] of those who have attained to righteousness!”
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Search For: 2086 – Peace: sent down by Allah – Peace: sent down by Allah
At-Tauba (The Repentance)
9:26 whereupon God bestowed from on high His [gift of] inner peace upon His Apostle and upon the believers, and bestowed [upon you] from on high forces which you could not see, [34] and chastised those who were bent on denying the truth: for such is the recompense of all who deny the truth!
At-Tauba (The Repentance)
9:40 If you do not succour the Apostle, [60] then [know that God will do so -just as] God succoured him at the time when those who were bent on denying the truth drove him away, [and he was but] one of two: [61] when these two were [hiding] in the cave, [and] the Apostle said to his companion, “Grieve not: verily, God is with us.” [62] And thereupon God bestowed upon him from on high His (gift of] inner peace, [63] and brought utterly low the cause of those who were bent on denying the truth, whereas the cause of God remained supreme: [64] for God is almighty, wise.
Al-Fath (The Victory)
48:4 It is He who from on high has bestowed inner peace upon the hearts of the believers, [4] so that – seeing that God’s are all the forces of the heavens and the earth, and that God is all-knowing, truly wise – they might grow yet more firm in their faith; [5]
Al-Fath (The Victory)
48:12 Nay, you thought that the Apostle and the believers would never return to their kith and kin: and this seemed goodly to your hearts. [12] And you entertained [such] evil thoughts because you have always been people devoid of all good!”
Al-Fath (The Victory)
48:26 Whereas they who are bent on denying the truth harboured a stubborn disdain in their hearts – the stubborn disdain [born] of ignorance [36] God bestowed from on high His [gift of] inner peace upon His Apostle and the believers, and bound them to the spirit of God-consciousness: [37] for they were most worthy of this [divine gift], and deserved it well. And God has full knowledge of all things.
Al-Qadr (The Night of Decree)
97:5 does it make secure, [5] until the rise of dawn.
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Search For: 2087 – Peace: upon Allah%27s servants and messengers – Peace: upon Allah%27s servants and messengers
An-Naml (The Ants)
27:59 SAY: “All praise is due to God, and peace be upon those servants of His whom He chose [to be His message-bearers]!” Is not God far better than anything to which men [falsely] ascribe a share in His divinity? [54]
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:79 “Peace be upon Noah throughout all the worlds!”
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:80 Verily, thus do We reward the doers of good –
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:81 for he was truly one of our believing servants:
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:108 and left him thus to be remembered among later generations: [44]
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:109 “Peace be upon Abraham!”
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:110 Thus do We reward the doers of good –
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:111 for he was truly one of our believing servants.
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:119 and left them thus to be remembered among later generations:
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:120 “Peace be upon Moses and Aaron!”
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:121 Thus do We reward the doers of good –
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:122 for those two were truly among Our believing servants.
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:129 and him We left thus to be remembered among later generations:
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:130 “Peace be upon Elijah and his followers!” [50]
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:131 Verily, thus do We reward the doers of good –
As-Saffat (The Rangers)
37:132 for he was truly one of Our believing servants!
37:181 And peace be upon all His message-bearers!
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THAT IS IT — THAT IS ALL WHERE PEACE IS REFERRED TO IN QURAN SO U KNOW WHAT IS IN PEACE AND LOVE AS PER THE QURAN — AND THERE IS LOTS ON WOMEN WIVES AND WIVES OF MUHAMMAD WARFARE FIGHTS CUTTING AND KILLING AND I WONT TALK ABOUT THAT LET US SEE AFTER READING ABOUT PEACE AND LOVE IN QURAN HOW MANY OF U FEEL THAT WAY —
HAPPY READING
ANIL
Koul Anil
October 8, 2008 at 6:12 pm
“TO KNOW INDIA” ….
go to the Indian streets … in the Indian cities and towns and villages …
NOT TO A “SITE” …
lol ….
chandra
October 8, 2008 at 6:41 pm
TO KNOW ISLAM — READ AND UNDERSTAND QURAN — U WILL FIND REASON FOR WORLD TERRORISM —
And Chandra did u know —
To know about the terrorists and there thinking go back to the manual of terrorism — the quran and see the life of muhammad —
we are trying to save muslims from evil ISLAM … kashmiri muslims especially ….
have fun chandra —
reading and seeing the videos of ISLAMIC ritualistic beheadings — Muhammad did it so what wrong have muslims done….
happy reading
Anil
Koul Anil
October 8, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Amazed at the comments of these jehadi Islamic terrorists who were reason for bomb blasts —- Isnt this ISLAM????
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Zia-ur Rehman says…“If Allah wants, I’ll bomb the market where my mother buys vegetables. She will be sent to paradise.”
“Whatever knowledge I have about Islam, I have no regrets about what I did.”
“My father told me I’m not his son. He doesn’t understand jihad for Allah, and nothing else matters to me.”
“I have no regrets about what I did, and the way I did it. Ask them to shoot me for this.”
“The jihad is against Maharashtra for ignoring the Srikrishna Report and what happened in Gujarat.”
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Saquib Nisar says…“He (Atif) would talk about jihad for hours. He was quite passionate about it and infused the same in me.”
“Allah does miracles to save a jihadi, that is true.”
“Atif said one has to adopt evil to prevent a bigger one. It’s not for me or you; it’s for Allah.”
“We loved to hear Atif talk about jihad. He told me that only a few get to wage jihad for Allah.”
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Mohammed Shakeel says…“I experienced an awakening after I committed my life to Allah. Now life and death are same.”
“He (Atif) is dead and we are here (in prison). No regrets, it’s Allah’s test of our fortitude.”
“If you follow things that are happening in the world, also in India, Muslims are not welcome.”
“A handful of Allah ke bande were able to paralyse the economic life of such a big country.”
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AMAZED AT THERE THINKING WOW SEE WHAT ISLAM DOES TO HUMANS —-
MUSLIM – ISLAM = HUMAN
AM I WRONG WHEN I SAID THAT???
SOURCE FOR ABOVE IS
http://islamicterrorism.wordpress.com/
HAPPY READING
ANIL
KOUL ANIL
October 9, 2008 at 4:08 am
kashmiri pandits are no more like silent and pitiable people .now we have adecent population of 7 lakh .we just need one united representation .we dont want to crush any religion as we have never done that.if kashmiri muslims have a right of self dtermination so do we and we want our own land panun kashmir which is very just and right .and remember guru govind sing ji said” when all methods of adressing the injustice have failed then raising of sword is just and plous “.
i wonder if that can be a alternative for kashmiri pandits against cruel terrorists.
“CAN SOMEBODY BRIEF ME ABOUT FEASIBILITY OF PANUN KASHMIR “
vishjvedeep bhat
October 11, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I have tears in my eyes everytime I think about you people being forced to leave your homeland. I dont disagree that many of us were to an extent responsible for that henious act, but not all. However, the whole process of exodus was catalysed by
Jagmohan.
I am a personal witness to one of my Dad’s KP friend coming to our home and telling us to also leave for Jammu for a couple of months. He said that the coming months were going to be dreaded but there would be normalcy after three months. This is what Jagmohan had probably promised the community.
His plan was to allow each separatist to cross the border and kill him on return. Otherwise, you tell me, with such a heavy army guard under his rule, how was it possible for young boys and men to board buses and trucks from Lalchowk for border in broad daylight? Anyone will tell you these were common sights during those days.
He had kept army buses and trucks busy evacuating the city of all KPs.
He wanted to “cleanse” the valley of all antinational elements. He wanted to protect KPs “isolating” them untill such period he finished his job.
Even Dr. Farooq Abdullah has went on record to endorse this theory.
Excerpts from an interview of Dr. Farooq Abdullah..
Q. There is a continuous propaganda going on that Kashmiri Pandits were thrown out by the Kashmiri Muslims. Do you agree with that?
A. No I don’t agree with that. But the situation was such that they were frightened that they could be a target. And the Governor of that time Jagmohan told them to go away for some time promising them that they will be brought back.
Q. So Jagmohan instigated their exodus?
A. Yes of course he did it. I have always said that. I am on record to say that.
Q. What is your opinion about Jagmohan?
A. I think… I don’t think I should give an opinion about him.
Source:http://www.kashmiraffairs.org/interview_Farooq%20Abdullah.html
Blogger
October 20, 2008 at 11:00 am
On “Islamic Terrorism”
1. Muslim population in India is about 15 Crores. At the most, all terrorists put together that belong to our religion (at least namesake, as terrorists don’t have any religion) would not be more than 2,000 (0.001%). Now you might say (which I don’t agree), that local Muslims support them, let us say this population is another 20,000 (10 times!!!), it would still be just 0.011%. Isn’t it unfair to brand the rest of 99.99% of the community as terrorists?
2. Have you ever heard of Christian terrorism? (In 1946, the Manhattan Engineer District published a study that concluded that 66,000 people were killed at Hiroshima out of a population of 255,000. Of that number, 45,000 died on the first day and 19,000 during the next four months. In addition, “several hundred” survivors were expected to die from radiation-induced cancers and lukemia over the next 30 years. (This report is also known as the Oughterson Commission study.)
3. Or Hindu terrorism
a. At least 384 persons including 129 civilians, 162 security forces and 93 alleged Naxalites have been killed in the Naxal conflict during January to September 2007. The highest number of killings were reported from Chhattisgarh (208), followed by Andhra Pradesh (59), Jharkhand (44) and Bihar (28). The Naxal conflict has serious implications on the enjoyment of human rights
b. According to Home Affairs Annual Report 2005-6, 76 districts in the 9 States of Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Orissa, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal are badly affected by Naxal violence though in varying degrees. Nevertheless, unofficially 13 states, including targeted, are affected. Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Gujarat are coming under the Naxalite affected map.
c. At least 60 Christians have been killed over the past two months in eastern India in a brutal backlash to the murder of a revered Hindu holy man, a national bishops’ body said Friday. “Claiming that the situation in Kandhamal and elsewhere in Orissa was well under control, the state government on Monday said at least 558 houses and 17 places of worship were burnt in communal riots after VHP leader Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati’s killing on August 23.”
I could probably go on and on and include as many religions that exist. Every religion has black sheep. You cannot and must not brand the entire religion as terrorists..
Blogger
October 20, 2008 at 11:01 am
It might be of interest for you to know that total number of KPs killed till date is 100 (Govt. of India estimates) against 100,000 Kashmiri Muslims who have been killed till date (for the same peroid).
A ratio of 100:1,00,000
While you have left no forum where you dont claim this as genocide, what would you call the killing of your own 1,00,000 brothers and sisters?
I again say, terrorists don’t have any religion.\
On why Muslims didnt oppose Exodus:
That was a time of dreaded terrorism. No one dared to even whisper anything against the terrorists. Leave common man, even the forces were scared. Even if an Armywallah used to pee on the roadside, 5-6 gunmen used to guard him.
At such a point, how could anyone expect anyone to help. Even for Muslims who were killed by the terrorists, the entire family was labeled as “Gaddaar” or “Mukhbir” and people, even their neighbours and friends used to distance themselves from them, fearing to be labeled as “Gaddaars” or “Mukhbirs”
To further catalyse the exodus, Jagmohan left no stone unturned.
Blogger
October 20, 2008 at 11:07 am
boring ….
chandra
October 20, 2008 at 11:52 am
@blogger,
dont be a joke on this forum, are you trying to force your point of view by “crying & whimping” with your pathetic examples. do you think we are all fools, dont be so naive, most of the commentors in this blog live in india and know what is happening in their surroundings & the reality.
growup man, dont be a moron.
venkat
venkat
October 20, 2008 at 1:03 pm
BLOGGER —
WOW WOW WOW….. HOLD UR BREAKS…. i AM SURE U WERE STILL HOLDING TO MILK BOTTLE IN 1989 — THAT IS THE REASON U LOOK AT FORUQ TO GIVE U ANSWERS — ASK UR PARENTS TO GIVE U NEWS PAPER CLIPPINGS .. POSTERS THOSE CASSETTES PLAYED IN MOSQUES — STILL BETTER SIT AND TALK IN PRIVATE WITH BITTA KARATAY HE WILL KNOW IT BETTER ????
WHEN U SAY SMALL %AGE OF MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS — EXAMINE THE REASONS — THEY ARE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF “QURAN” AND FOLLOW IT WORD TO WORD….. FOR THAT MATTER ANY MUSLIM WHO FOLLOWS ISLAM AND LIVES LIFE LIKE MUHAMMAD WILL BE TERRORIST IN PRESENT WORLD AND HIGHWAY ROBBER IN 7TH CENTURY….
ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE QUOTED ENOUGH QURAN AND WE ARE YET TO SEE PEACEFUL PART OF QURAN ANY WHERE AND YET MUSLIMS LIKE U CLAIM ONLY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE FOLLOW ISLAM I MEANT TERRORISM….
LOOK THROUGH THE PAGES OF HISTORY AND U WILL KNOW MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF HINDUS HAVE DIED JUST FROM THE TIME RELIGION OF PEACE URF ISLAM STARTED — IF U FIND LITTLE RETALIATION FROM SOME HINDU GROUPS WHAT IS WRONG — HOW MUCH CAN WE TOLERATE THE RELIGION OF TERRORISM …. PROVE ME WRONG BY SHOWING SOMETHING LIKE PEACE AND LOVE IN UR RELIGION ….
WE ARE DISAPPOINTED WITH ISLAM
LOVE AND PEACE
ANIL
KOUL ANIL
October 20, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Just happened to browse pages and found below ….. wow amazing — wonder whom do muslims call terrorists…
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-women-kill.htm
each islam loving muslim is acting like a terrorist — tell me who is not a terrorist if u are following muhammad…. sob sob sob — look what has happened to muslims …. he has taken there freedom to think…. save muslims from evil islam..
love and peace
anil
Koul Anil
October 20, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I think there is no point in discouraging the blogger.Probably he has expressed genuine emotions about pandits.We should have no reasons to think otherwise.If he is talking about terrorrism going on and he could do nothing about saving kashmiri pandits, he may be telling the truth.I MAY ONCE AGAIN LIKE TO CONVEY MY DISPLEASURE ABOUT THE BLOGS OF ANIL KOUL;where, he uses balatant religous attack.It is more appropriate to tell the blogger if he is local then islam has been thrust upon him, and if he is foreginer like Geelani, then his ancestors have abused Kahmiri hospitality.
bilhan kaul
October 21, 2008 at 4:08 am
I think the blog is to show what you have in your heart …
if it is a blatant religious attack then so be it …
as long as no one is going around killing people … like muslim terrorists … all around the world …
people preaching “religious political correctness”
…. have the “mad-rassas” to go and preach … u can start from north west frontier … lets see if you do not get lynched …
if any kashmiri muslim is really “repentant” … let him come forward and give a call that he is with the KP’s and will help them in the “return” to the valley … and then start the campaign in the valley … rather than sobbing on this site … sobbing on the blog aint no repentance … is it .. ???
passing the buck from one politician to another … its not about politicians … all these things happen because of the support of the local public … that may not include “each one” of them … doesnt have to be that way … but even if there are enough who support such a move and be on side of the terrorists they can create havoc … just like in Orissa … though in Orissa its a religious war …
so stop cribbing about being religious political correctness … show substance … not sobs …
chandra
October 21, 2008 at 5:42 am
Bilhan ….
You said..
>”Probably he has expressed genuine emotions about > pandits”
if you were so sure about his intentions why did u use probably word. and in the very next sentence u wrote
>”We should have no reasons to think otherwise”
while as in ur first sentence u urself were not sure and used probability and second sentence u are asking every one else to believe that there is no reason to believe other wise.
FAct is u urself can’t believe muslims and there intentions especially after knowing what they have done to us — i cant forget 1989. Fact is neither can u…..
I am sure according to Islam — people like Bitta karatay and yasin malik are not criminals — did any muslim ever accept that they should get punishment for what they did….. but they all are trying to be like them and claim there piece of heaven (after all 72 virgins and 28 boys ) — who will not want it… and rivers of liquor to drink…..
do find me any other reason other than islam that kashmiri muslims did what they did in 1989 — I am never convinced with the theory of there azadi crap — unless u are …
love and peace’
anil
KOUL ANIL
October 21, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Dear Blogger
According to you what is the problem in Kashmir ? What do the people in Kashmir want ?
To be more precise – what is the whole Kashmir issue ?
please answer in a few crisp sentences…
Rohit
October 21, 2008 at 12:31 pm
http://renjithmn.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/an-election-year-indian-media-sleazy-pleasure-of-baiting-hinduism/
Renjith Nair
November 12, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Awesome my brother awesome, don’t stop here keep working more and more the war with the Islam is far from over.
oxyuranusscutellatus
January 20, 2009 at 11:30 am