Amarnath Accord – What A.G.Noorani did not tell you !
Much has been discussed and propagated by Pseudo Secularists and “Jhola Chaaps” about an article by right wing writer A.G.Noorani .
AG Noorani
Here I would like to share the points with the readers of how biased A.G.Noorani is when it comes to sharing the right facts.
The accord ignores completely Kashmir where the land is to be given. Jammu alone was represented. – A.G.Noorani
What Noorani has forgotten that Jammu & Kashmir is a one complete state and anyone in Jammu & Ladakh has an equal right over every single inch of land in the whole state. Also Noorani has completely ignored that Kashmiri Hindus who have been in the forefront of the agitation led by Sangarsh Samiti also represent Kashmir in particular. The authors seems to have probably bowed to the wishes of Kashmiri terrorists by erasing the thought of Kashmiri Hindus from even the memory.
Even the controversial order nowhere used the word “exclusive”
What Noorani does not either know or does not want to be known is that there is a order of High Court dated 15.04.2005 [ OWP No 732/2004 Rampal Bathonia Vs State ] in which the Hon Court Ordered ” Since the Board intends to upgrade the infrastructure across the tracks and at different places, the state shall,immediately permit the use of Forest Land by the board,if not already allowed,to enable it to carry out the development activities for the benefit of the Yatris. I am informed that the Forest Department has already granted permisssion to the board for the purpose.”
The state Govt went in to appeal to the Division Bench of High Court. The division bench vide its interim directions on 17.5.2005 ordered as follows ” The land to be allotted by the board would be only for the purpose of the user and would remain limited for the duration of Yatra.
I wonder if Noorani has ever read the court orders, which I am sure he may not have , as it did not suit his own support to the fundamentalists in Kashmir and elsewhere.I wonder if Noorani understand the meaning of these judgements and the least he could is to understand the meaning of “only” in the above order.
The Baltal route is a recent demand. It was regarded by the Army and Nitish Sengupta Report as dangerous.- A.G.Noorani
Again,Noorani misses the finer points. Noorani does not care to share with his readers that out of 20 odd recommendations by Nitish Sen Gupta committee on Amaranth.,the prominent was activation of shorter Baltal route to reduce the hardships via Chandanwari & SheshNaag route.
This violates the citizen’s fundamental right under Art. 19 (1) D to move freely throughout India.–A.G.Noorani
Alas Noorani uses the fundamental rights to his own requirements. Wonder why Noorani does not support abrogation of Article 370 of Indian constitution. Of all the fundamental rights listed in our constitution the first one is “Right To Equality”…..”The State shall not discriminate against any citizen on grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, place of birth or any of them.” Does Noorani not feel that 100 crore citizens of India are denied these rights as they do not equal the pampered state subject of Jammu & Kashmir. Why deny the right to buy land in Jammu & Kashmir to 100 crore Indians? Why is Noorani silent on this fundamental right ?
namely “undertaking measures relating to … preservation of ecology” etc. Breach entails no fine… A.G.Noorani
Even though the Amarnath Shrine Board has insisted that they would be taking measures to reduce any harm to ecology the concerns were largely raised when someone said that the “Thajiwaas” glacier is endangered. Again what Noorani does either not know or does not want to share with his reader is that in a report submitted by Chief Wild Life Warden , WLP/Tech/1971/07 dated 11.06.2007, after on spot inspection, the following information was shared “It was noticed that the proposed site for construction of Shri Amarnath Shrine Board Complex,falling in the compartment 63(s)/ Sindh/Kullan is located on the right side of Sindh rivulet.The proposed complex does not seems to have any significant impact on the ecology of “Thajwaas” Wild Life sanctuary. ……It is also given to underastand that the board is using pre-fabricated structures as such likely pollution due to discharge of muck and garbage should not be significant.
The order of 26 May was rescinded on 1 July. The accord will require a fresh order to implement it. By itself the accord has no legal force. Section 2(a) of the J&K Forest (Conservation) Act 1997 says “the Government shall not, except on a resolution of the Council of Ministers based on the advice of the Advisory Committee” constituted under the Act “make any order directing that any forest land or any portion thereof may be used for any non-forest purpose…..A.G.Noorani
The recommendations of the Forest department has already been heard by council of Ministers and a decision taken. The whole idea was to understand the feasibility of land for the board. Since the land was approved by Forest Committe and under order No 108-FST dated 17.03.2008 , it clarifies that the camping site and Thajiwaas wild life sanctuary are divided by Sindh river.The Forest committee recommended that SASB should take Safeguards for pollution control.It also agreed that land be used for pre-fabricated structures for camping of pilgrims . It was basis of the report of the committee constituted vide Govt. Order no 108/FST dated 17.03.2008 the Forest Minister cleared the file for diversion of file to the Shrine Board.The cabinet followed vide its decision No 94/7.
One can understand the total partisan article coming from A.G.Noorani who always find anything related to Hindu rights as communal.
He talks of Amarnath accord as “Gunah” , and that makes me believe that when it comes to even justice….a Muslim lawyer is a Muslim first and the “real” justice” comes as a second priority. And for me that is a real “Gunah”
who is noorani ??????
chandra
September 7, 2008 at 7:48 am
People like Noorani have always stood up for the cause of their brothers and not fellow nationals. people like him are and will always remain MUSLIMS first and Indians later.My humble request to all please learn to respect your birth place even if it is not mentioned in ur religion.If u don’t respect your birth place, u will never be able to respect your religion.God give wisdom to all people like you.
sandeep pandita
September 7, 2008 at 9:17 am
DEAR SANDEEP….. MUSLIMS CAN NEVER BE LOYAL TO ANY THING OR ANY ONE OTHER THAN 6TH CENTURY WARLORD…… WHO MARRIED AT 51 YRS WITH 6 YEAR OLD….. DONT WORRY I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE IT IS THE BASE OF ISLAM— MUHAMMAD ITSELF….. HOW CAN THEY BELONG TO U, ME, THIS COUNTRY OR US INFIDELS AS A WHOLE…. NO WAY….. AND DONT EXPECT FROM THEM ANYTHING BUT GOI NEEDS TO GIVE THEM EVERYTHING WITH OUR TAX MONEY… WHAT A SHAME????
THE MUSLIM IS HIMSELF A GREAT SUFFERER DUE TO ISLAM….. EVEN THOUGH HE LIVE IN 21ST CENTURY HE IS STILL GOVERNED WITH THE RULES BASED ON 6TH CENTURY WARLORD….. THEY NEED TO READ AND UNDERSTAND BETTER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE DEVIL ALL ALONG…..
WE SUPPORT U MUSLIMS BUT PLEASE LEAVE ISLAM AND BECOME HUMANS….. SEE WHAT ISLAM DID TO U….. WE ARE HERE TO EDUCATE U AND TEACH YOU…..
KULDEEP
Kuldeep Trisal
September 7, 2008 at 12:20 pm
One question to all Indians who visit this site ….
I am a little confused reading some articles in some newpapers of how the Indians perceive themselves…
so please answer this in utmost sincerity…
Are you Indian first or Kashmiri or Punjabi or Marathi or Sikh or Hindu or Muslim first ( how will you write it ) ?
chandra
September 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Who is A. G. NOORANI ?
Lawyer
Don’t argue with him, he knows all the arguments. And don’t dabble with him on constitutional history, h e knows It all. A constitutional expert, he can give you a run for your money for details which even the finest historian might miss. And he is absolutely impeccable, he won’t write for you, barring for The Statesman for which he wrote for decades, and lately for Hindustan Times. A rare gem, among the judiciary, an intellectual who fights nonstop.
NavpreetSingh
September 7, 2008 at 1:22 pm
NEVER HEARD OF HIM … AND THANK GOD FOR IT …
chandra
September 7, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I BET I CAN ARGUE WITH HIM….
Neha
September 7, 2008 at 4:23 pm
KIndly send e-mail of Mr Noorani so that onec can directly interact with him.
Prof Mohan K Muju
Prof mohan k muju
September 8, 2008 at 4:24 am
NAMASKAR MARAH PROF. MOHAN K MUJU,
ONE ON ONE EMAILS DONT WORK WITH ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISTS BECAUSE IT IS EASY TO IGNORE IT AND ADD OUR NAME AS A JUNK LIST…. SO U WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ARGUE WITH THEM ONE TO ONE…..
BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DRAG THEM DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY “THROUGH THEIR SUPPORTERS” INTO THESE PUBLIC FORUM. ISLAM SHIES AWAY IN REPLYING OR DEBATING BUT WELL EDUCATED MUSLIMS ARE MOSTLY WELL AWARE OF THE ISLAMIC FACTS.
THANK YOU
KULDEEP
Kuldeep Trisal
September 8, 2008 at 10:46 am
well said KULDEEP
vid123
September 8, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Dear madam Navpreet singh,
For your kind information were was your Noorani when Hari parbat Temple adjecent to hari singh fort is surrounded by Forest land which was auctioned by Govt of J&K 100% muslims has been settled on that land and established also with Tibetian Muslims were govt has made houses for them which is against Article 370 as they are not state subjects of J&K isn’t they have voilated the law and he is advocating them.
Don’t teach us lesson we are born Lawyers and we can strongly retilate with his views with lot of evidence this is only one i can give you enough documental proof.
Don’t advocate this man as he knowinly or unknowling has give the false statement which according to us has no base.
He might have wrote good articles for newspapers but for us he is an aged man with no sense of law.
If he has guts ask him to fight in supream court for hari parbat forest land i will have deep respect for this man otherwise he is also comes into muslim catagory………….. no secular feelings…………only Pro……….
Better next time after you comment.
KP
September 19, 2008 at 3:42 pm
i m sure the guy is a lunatic …
chandra
September 19, 2008 at 3:55 pm
mr kp ..great and ya thanks for the information..
…actually 370 has diff meanings for muslims and diff for hindus…
govt is by the people for the people , and of the people
but in j&k it is amended under art 370
govt is by the muslims
for the musilms
and as well as of the muslims ..
correct me if im wrong
pamposh
September 19, 2008 at 4:39 pm
pamposh bro,
you are very correct……………..no issue……………..
KP
September 20, 2008 at 4:46 pm
This topic is quite hot in the net right now. What do you pay the most attention to while choosing what to write about?
Heartburn Home Remedy
April 15, 2009 at 11:57 am
Well most of the comments look like hate filled comments of the Gandhi killer RSS types.
He has given reasons for what the court/govt did, why do you have to make it a communal issue. The biggest problem is these RSS goonda types look at the name of the person first and THEN decide what to say. If its a muslim saying it – he/she is a fundamentalist, if its a hindu then a pseudo-secular.
Well I say that all these people are pseudo-hindus. Gandhiji showed us what real Hinduism stood for.
Lalita
June 18, 2009 at 6:23 am
Lalitha ,
You may not have read carefully . The author of this blog has contradicted Noorani carefully.
Noorani stands exposed . You seem to have lost it.
Agatha
June 18, 2009 at 6:31 am